[kj] [veryOT] New MIA Video

folk devil folk.devil at hotmail.com
Fri May 7 13:12:50 EDT 2010



Yes, but just like any other form of music.



From: karen.weil at sddt.com
To: vassifer at earthlink.net; gathering at misera.net
Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 10:10:39 -0700
Subject: Re: [kj] [veryOT] New MIA Video




Have to agree with Alex, especially about sampling. There's times when it's clever and works, and times when it's just plain lazy and uninventive.

K.W.
SoCal



----- Original Message -----
From: Alex Smith
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) ; gathering at misera.net
Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] [veryOT] New MIA Video


Surely you'll agree that there's a difference between imitating a guitar riff and LITERALLY USING SOMEONE ELSE'S RECORDING, no?

Look, sampling's nothing new. I can name handfuls of acts from all over the spectrum -- from Timbaland through fuckin' Cop Shoot Cop -- who utilized the sampler in new, inventive and innovative ways, but when you're just using a repeated loop (like "Born Free," "Paper Planes" and -- WAIT FOR IT -- "U Can't Touch This"), it seems a bit lazy, no?

And once again -- I much prefer MIA's music to Lady Gaga's, but my point was that she should tend to her own fuckin' garden before mouthing off about anyone else's.

Alex in NYC





-----Original Message-----
From: folk devil
Sent: May 7, 2010 12:10 PM
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] [veryOT] New MIA Video



I am also going to split hairs, but for how long have guitarists been doing 'variations' of a twelve bar in rock music?
It was OK for the Rolling Stones to rip from LeadBelly endlessly, but as soon as the Verve take a rip from them, they sue.
For me, it's the end sound that's important. Anything done to excess gets boring.
Where 'guitar' music is in question, I am more likely to gravitate towards KJ, Radiohead or even Kasabian, as they actually tweek things into something slightly different..



From: vassifer at earthlink.net
To: angrytomhanks at yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 06:55:18 -0400
CC: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] [veryOT] New MIA Video




I'm familiar with it, thank, Leigh -- you cheeky monkey -- but this is coming off of recent comments wherein she tore the likes of Lady Gaga a new one for not being remotely original. Pardon me, but when you're sampling thirty-year old records, that hardly makes you a pioneer.


Alex in NYC








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