[kj] (OT) The Religion of Peace, Love and Understanding

[Bette Dillinger]

Asserting the absence of dogma only reinforces its viable and inexorable presence in everyday life, dude.

 

Bette in Da Motor Citay 

 


From: vassifer at earthlink.net
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 20:19:18 -0400
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) The Religion of Peace, Love and Understanding




"Isn't virulent atheism just as much an issue as virulent Christian Fundamentalism?"


I'll take the absence of dogma over the enforcement of dogma every time.


Alex in NYC




On May 6, 2010, at 6:48 PM, Bette Dillinger wrote:

Isn't virulent atheism just as much an issue as virulent Christian Fundamentalism?  And I triple dare Mr Dawkins to do the same with Islam.  I have no vested interest in any point of view, so I will just pop the popcorn and watch the fireworks.
 
Fundamentalism of any kind is the sign of a fundamentally disturbed mind.
 
 
 

> From: vassifer at earthlink.net

> To: phil.tofield at virgin.net; gathering at misera.net

> Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 19:08:54 -0400

> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) The Religion of Peace, Love and Understanding

> 

> 

> That's awesome.

> 

> Alex in NYC

> 

> 

> On May 5, 2010, at 7:50 AM, phil wrote:

> 

> > http://store.richarddawkins.net/products/the-god-delusion-t-shirt

> >

> > I want one

> >

> > On Wed, 5 May 2010 08:04:45 +1000, you wrote:

> >

> >> The Bible is totally twisted to begin with, here’s a quote which 

> >> sums it up better than anything else:

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant 

> >> character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, 

> >> unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic 

> >> cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, 

> >> genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, 

> >> sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Richard Dawkins, The God Delusion.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net 

> >> ] On Behalf Of Karen Weil

> >> Sent: Wednesday, 5 May 2010 3:10 AM

> >> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> >> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) The Religion of Peace, Love and Understanding

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Good point. There are plenty who twist the Bible to suit their own 

> >> beliefs.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> k.w.

> >>

> >> the States

> >>

> >> ----- Original Message -----

> >>

> >> From: Jim Harper <mailto:jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>

> >>

> >> To: A list about <mailto:gathering at misera.net> all things Killing 

> >> Joke (the band!)

> >>

> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 2:32 AM

> >>

> >> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) The Religion of Peace, Love and Understanding

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> By those standards, all Christians believe you can own slaves and 

> >> have more than one wife. But how many of them are bigamists and 

> >> slaveowners?

> >>

> >> --- On Mon, 3/5/10, Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:

> >>

> >> 99% of muslims, by definition, believe in the subjugation of women, 

> >> deny the right of any other religion to exist, are against 

> >> democracy...etc. The idea that all of the harm is in the 

> >> fundamentalist fringe is outdated:

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> <http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1452322/posts> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1452322/posts

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> So the mantra ‘Islam is peace’ is almost 1,400 years out of date. 

> >> It was only for about 13 years that Islam was peace and nothing but 

> >> peace. From 622 onwards it became increasingly aggressive, albeit 

> >> with periods of peaceful co-existence, particularly in the colonial 

> >> period, when the theology of war was not dominant. For today’s 

> >> radical Muslims — just as for the mediaeval jurists who developed 

> >> classical Islam — it would be truer to say ‘Islam is war’. One of 

> >> the most radical Islamic groups in Britain, al-Ghurabaa, stated in 

> >> the wake of the two London bombings, ‘Any Muslim that denies that 

> >> terror is a part of Islam is kafir.’ A kafir is an unbeliever 

> >> (i.e., a non-Muslim), a term of gross insult.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net 

> >> ] On Behalf Of Karen Weil

> >> Sent: Tuesday, 4 May 2010 5:16 AM

> >> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> >> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) The Religion of Peace, Love and Understanding

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Unfortunately, while 99 percent of Muslims mean no one any harm, 

> >> it's vicious cretins like this guy who continue to fan the flames 

> >> of xenophobia, suspicion and irrational hatred of their faith by 

> >> those of other religions, ethnic groups, etc.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> k.w.

> >>

> >> SoCal

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> ----- Original Message -----

> >>

> >> From: <http://uk.mc259.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=LONESTYLE@aol.com 

> >> > LONESTYLE at aol.com

> >>

> >> To: <http://uk.mc259.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gathering@misera.net 

> >> > gathering at misera.net

> >>

> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 12:22 PM

> >>

> >> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) The Religion of Peace, Love and Understanding

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> That guy is an asshole!

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> ~ LB

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> In a message dated 4/21/2010 8:54:39 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, <http://uk.mc259.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=folk.devil@hotmail.com 

> >> > folk.devil at hotmail.com writes:

> >>

> >> That guy in the interview is a bit mental, really.

> >>

> >>

> >>> From: <http://uk.mc259.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=planetary@socal.rr.com 

> >>> > planetary at socal.rr.com

> >>> To: <http://uk.mc259.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gathering@misera.net 

> >>> > gathering at misera.net

> >>> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 08:48:12 -0700

> >>> Subject: [kj] (OT) The Religion of Peace, Love and Understanding

> >>>

> >>> http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/showbiz/2010/04/21/ 

> >>> ac.griffin.south.park.threat.cnn?hpt=C2

> >>>

> >>> "A radical Islamic website warns the creators of "South Park" 

> >>> after the Prophet Mohammed was featured on the show."

> >>>

> >>> Yeah, look out for those evil cartoons mocking your deity, you 

> >>> stone age fucks.

> >>>

> >>> T.B.

> >>>

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