[kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 79, Issue 299 The whole conmersation is shit o...

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I remember my first trip on acid too...  You're a bit daft are  you not???
 
~ LB
 
 
In a message dated 3/31/2010 6:08:18 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
michellemilarski at hotmail.com writes:



>I cant stand by this massage board and read it any  longer,.... you all 

talk so much crap it almost cracks me into tears  or slaughter, then... tears 
of laughter!!.. you senseless  mongooses...
michelle from Edinburgh

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> 1. Re: Extremities  (Karen Weil)

> 2. Re: I'M GETTING SICK OF YOU SO-CALLED GATHERERS..you  know

> whoyou are!!! (Karen Weil)

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> Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 11:38:01 -0700

>  From: "Karen Weil" <karen.weil at sddt.com>

> Subject: Re: [kj]  Extremities

> To: "A list about all things Killing Joke \(the  band!\)"

> <gathering at misera.net>

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> As an American, I didn't  care much for the song. Beat was good -- but 

the lyrics stuck to all the tired  themes about my country: Greed, 
materialism, obsession with power, etc. (While  yes, some of that remains true, the 
song still covered no new ground.)  

> As for the rest of that album: "Zzzzzzzzzzz ..." 

> I eagerly  await "FoF." 

> 

> Cheers,

> 

> Karen 

> -----  Original Message ----- 

> From: Paul Wady 

> To: Alex in NYC ;  Gatherers Killing Joke Gatherers 

> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 5:55  AM

> Subject: Re: [kj] Extremities

> 

> 

> I remember  OTG around 1989. Couldn't get over America. What do you 

American's think of  that song to this day?

> 

> Pandemonium was a kinda Traveller/Rave  period thing with some great 

moments (MY FAMILY IS THE VILLAGE AND THE VILLAGE  IS THE LAW..) and finally, 
the true acoustics of the Kings chamber of the  great pyramid of... Never 
heard of Roger Whittaker using that place. Probibly  recorded in it to get out 
of the sun. 

> 

> Surely compared to the  pandemonium of Hosanna's, OTG stands as this 

sober, considered work of gentle  strings (2nd song, whatsit called? My love of 
this land -aaah.) Yana, and some  really minimal -with-a-punch songs. I took 
this album as their 'look we can be  really good without a lot of mad 
guitars' work. 

> 

> Then they  went back to being rough and ready, and we ended up with KJ in 

2003. Yippee.  Then they all got too rough and ready and got stuck in that 
basement in  Prague, as seen in that video. 

> 

> 

> When are they going  to do a musical, like U2 did with Spider man? Theme 

suggestions  please???

> 

> 

> 

> 

> > Date: Fri, 19 Mar  2010 08:40:10 -0400

> > From: vassifer at earthlink.net

> > To:  gathering at misera.net; gathering at misera.net

> > Subject: Re: [kj]  Extremities

> > 

> > 

> > 

> > Good  question. Did OTG win them any new fans at the time. Say, did 

someone hear  "America" and run out to buy the album?

> > 

> > Somehow I  THINK NOT.

> > 

> > That said, I think I've listened to OTG  more recently than I've spun 

HOSANNAS.

> > 

> > Alex in  NYC

> > 

> > 

> > 

> > -----Original  Message-----

> > >From: Phillipps Marc  <Marc.Phillipps at enfield.nhs.uk>

> > >Sent: Mar 19, 2010 8:16  AM

> > >To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"  

<gathering at misera.net>

> > >Subject: Re: [kj]  Extremities

> > >

> > >>Has anyone ever said OTG is  their favourite?!

> > >

> > >I thought OTG was your  favourite? 

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >  >-----Original Message-----

> > >From:  gathering-bounces at misera.net 

[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

>  > >On Behalf Of gingoblin at easynet.co.uk

> > >Sent: 19 March  2010 12:09

> > >To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the  band!)

> > >Subject: Re: [kj] Extremities

> >  >

> > >

> > >This is what I like about this list...  so many different opinions! For

> > >

> > >me,  Extremities is one of KJ's greatest moments, certainly helped by

> >  >what 

> > >had come before, but it still sounds great when I  play it. And I like

> > >the 

> > >fast bit in  Beautiful Dead too! Ha ha, I also like KJ2003 and

> > >Democracy  

> > >but hardly ever play Pandemonium.

> > >

>  > >Has anyone ever said OTG is their favourite?! Could such a thing  be

> > >possible?!

> > >

> > >Dave in  Edinburgh

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >  >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >  >

> > >At 16:23 18/03/2010 -0400, you wrote:

> >  >>i was a big fan of KJ2003 too, amidst a lot of loathing among 

>  > >>Gatherers. could there be a link between our appreciation of  both

> > >records?

> > >>

> >  >>m

> > >>

> > >>

> >  >>----------

> > >>Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 23:21:06  -0700

> > >>From: angrytomhanks at yahoo.com

> >  >>To: gathering at misera.net

> > >>Subject: Re: [kj]  Extremities

> > >>

> > >>Extremities is  fantastic. Certainly the fast part in the Beautiful 

Dead

> >  >

> > >>and parts like it have that Ministry "Mind is a  Terrible Thing" vibe

> > >and 

> > >>sound dated as  hell now but I think it was just a matter of them 

trying

> > >to  

> > >>"keep up with the joneses". Trying to stay relevent to  the kids 

while 

> > >>still retaining their own unique sound. I  think it's a nice blend 

and I

> > >

> > >>love that  they attempted it. I don't think it's the first time they 

> >  >>deviated from their standard sound and tried to take on different  

> > >>contemporary styles. Pretty much everything from  Nighttime and on 

sees 

> > >>them melding their style to what  was current at the time. The idea 

of 

> > >>Killing Joke  absorbing the musical climate at any given time, putting

> > >it  

> > >>through their own filter and spitting it back out is one  that I'm

> > >totally 

> > >>into. I'll take that  from most bands, actually. Pandemonium and

> > >Democracy 

>  > >>both have standout tracks but are also lousy with filler.  

Extremities

> > >is a 

> > >>much more solid album.  I think it's the last really relevent thing 

they

> > >

>  > >>did, although KJ2003 comes close.

> > >>

>  > >>Leigh

> > >>

> > >>

> >  >>http://www.nightruiner.com

> >  >>http://www.myspace.com/thesunthroughatelescope

> >  >>http://www.myspace.com/lauderdale

> > >>

> >  >>

> > >>

> > >>From: Matthew Burke  <marsboy1 at msn.com>

> > >>To: gathering  <gathering at misera.net>

> > >>Sent: Wed, March 17, 2010  8:56:37 PM

> > >>Subject: Re: [kj] Extremities

> >  >>

> > >>i think extremities is one of the most complete  and perfect things 

they

> > >

> > >>ever did, the  recording style merely reaffirmed the "punk" in their 

> >  >>post-punk pedigree.

> > >>

> >  >>

> > >>

> > >>

> >  >>----------

> > >>Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:48:50  -0700

> > >>From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com

> > >>To:  gathering at misera.net

> > >>Subject: Re: [kj]  Extremities

> > >>

> > >>I found DMCRCY was a  welcome tack in a lighter direction after the

> >  >intensity

> > >>of the "Extremities.. - L?IMBO -  Pandemonium" sequence.

> > >>

> > >>

>  > >>... ... ... ... ... ...

> > >>

> >  >>[looking at the current state of things..]

> >  >>

> > >>'Who has the fun..

> > >> ..is it  always a man with a gun...?

> > >> Someone must have told him  if you work too hard... you can sweat"

> > >>

> >  >>

> > >>

> > >>From: n0153 jr  <nomeanswhat at gmail.com>

> > >>To: A list about all things  Killing Joke (the band!)

> > ><gathering at misera.net>

>  > >>Sent: Wed, March 17, 2010 4:35:22 PM

> >  >>Subject: Re: [kj] Extremities

> > >>

> >  >>love 'em both... that's it.

> > >>even like democracy a  lot.

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>On Wed,  Mar 17, 2010 at 3:27 PM, sade1 

> >  >><<mailto:saulomar1 at yahoo.com>saulomar1 at yahoo.com>  wrote:

> > >>>I've always thought that "Extremities.."(the  song) went a little 

too 

> > >>>"Pink Floyd-ish" at  parts.

> > >>>I think Jaz is the Pink Floyd fan of the  group.

> > >>>

> > >>>

> >  >>>... ... ... ... ... ...

> > >>>

> >  >>>[looking at the current state of things..]

> >  >>>

> > >>>'Who has the fun..

> >  >>> ..is it always a man with a gun...?

> > >>>  Someone must have told him if you work too hard... you can sweat"

> >  >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> >  >>>From: Neil Perry  <<mailto:65snoopy at gmail.com>65snoopy at gmail.com>

> >  >>>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) 

> >  >>><<mailto:gathering at misera.net>gathering at misera.net>

>  > >>>Sent: Wed, March 17, 2010 2:28:19 AM

> >  >>>Subject: Re: [kj] Extremities

> > >>>

>  > >>>Yeah I know its a lazy phrase... I'm listening to Extremities  now 

and

> > >I 

> > >>>chiefly meant

>  > >>>the fast section slapped into the middle of Beautiful Dead  for

> > >absolutely 

> > >>>no reason that ruins  what would

> > >>>have been a fantastic song, the horrible  mess that is Struggle and 

> > >>>sections of the title  track.

> > >>>

> > >>>But Geordie's guitar  sounds fucking incredible - was this the last

> > >time 

>  > >>>that sound we all

> > >>>know and love was  in evidence on a KJ record?

> > >>>

> >  >>>Sorry Jel, no more analysis, promise

> >  >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>On 16 March  2010 16:24, Brian Whitehead 

> >  >>><<mailto:bawhitehead at gmail.com>bawhitehead at gmail.com>  wrote:

> > >>>>"bad thrash metal stuff on  Extremities"

> > >>>>

> > >>>>This  has been levelled at Extremeties in the past and to be honest 

I 

> >  >>>>cant see it? May be as I don't listen to a lot of thrash  metal.

> > >>>>

> > >>>>Following  Jon's footy analogy, it's 4-2 to Extremeties for me with 

a 

> >  >>>>Geordie hat-trick.

> > >>>>

> >  >>>>Brian.

> > >>>>

> >  >>>>

> > >>>>On 16 March 2010 13:12, Neil  Perry 

> >  >>>><<mailto:65snoopy at gmail.com>65snoopy at gmail.com>  wrote:

> > >>>>>Well I think both albums are games of  two halves, Alan

> > >>>>>

> >  >>>>>Always hated the bad thrash metal stuff on Extremities but  some 

of

> > >the 

> > >>>>>guitar

>  > >>>>>work still stands as some of Geordie's finest - and  Termite 

Mound is

> > >

> > >>>>>always  in

> > >>>>>my KJ top ten. Except that Termite Mound  was very unrepresentative

> > >of the

> >  >>>>>whole LP - wish it was more like this. I just don't think  KJ do 

fast

> > >

> > >>>>>very  well,

> > >>>>>and are far more menacing when they  slow it down

> > >>>>>

> >  >>>>>Where as Pandemonium had some filler, agreed, but the good  stuff 

was

> > >>>>>great - and I include Communion,  the title track, Black Moon and 

the

> > >

> >  >>>>>original mixes of

> >  >>>>>Millennium and Mathematics (cheating I know,  but...)

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>>And  I like Jana.

> > >>>>>

> >  >>>>>It goes to penalties, and Pandemonium wins.

> >  >>>>>

> > >>>>>Still getting me coat,  Jamie hold the bus

> > >>>>>

> >  >>>>>n

> > >>>>>

> >  >>>>>

> > >>>>>On 16 March 2010 13:19,  jon chapman 

> >  >>>>><<mailto:jonniespatula at hotmail.co.uk>jonniespatula at hotmail.co.uk>

>  > >wrote:

> > >>>>>>Pandemonium was ruined  for the poor version of Mathematics,the

> > >shite 

> >  >>>>>>that is Jana,Pleasures of The Flesh and i've grown to  hate

> > >Communion.

> > >>>>>>

>  > >>>>>>Extremities wasn't ruined.

> >  >>>>>>

> > >>>>>>

> >  >>>>>>

> > >>>>>>Extremities wins  on the away goals rule.

> > >>>>>>

> >  >>>>>>

> > >>>>>>

> >  >>>>>>

> > >>>>>>

> >  >>>>>>

> > >>>>>>

> >  >>>>>>

> > >>>>>>

> >  >>>>>>

> > >>>>>>

> >  >>>>>>----------

> > >>>>>>From:  <mailto:gregslawson at msn.com>gregslawson at msn.com

> >  >>>>>>To:  <mailto:gathering at misera.net>gathering at misera.net

> >  >>>>>>Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 08:12:30 -0400

> >  >>>>>>Subject: Re: [kj] Extremities

> >  >>>>>>

> > >>>>>>

> >  >>>>>>Extremities may be a better album--certainly more  original, and 

no 

> > >>>>>>real weak songs--but  Pandemonium is better to just sit there and

> > >rock out  to!

> > >>>>>>

> >  >>>>>>

> >  >>>>>>----------

> > >>>>>>Date:  Tue, 16 Mar 2010 10:30:44 +0100

> > >>>>>>From:  <mailto:rob.moss at gmx.com>rob.moss at gmx.com

> >  >>>>>>To:  <mailto:vassifer at earthlink.net>vassifer at earthlink.net; 

> >  >>>>>><mailto:gathering at misera.net>gathering at misera.net

>  > >>>>>>Subject: Re: [kj] Extremities

> >  >>>>>>

> > >>>>>>Quite  right.

> > >>>>>>

> >  >>>>>>

> > >>>>>>Looks likes its  boys one side of the room and girls the other 

then!

> >  >>>>>>

> > >>>>>>

> >  >>>>>>So that's it, if you prefer Pandemonium to  Extremities, you are 

a 

> > >>>>>>girl.  Period.

> > >>>>>>

> >  >>>>>>

> > >>>>>>

> >  >>>>>>----- Original Message -----

> >  >>>>>>From: Alex Smith

> >  >>>>>>Sent: 03/15/10 05:15 PM

> >  >>>>>>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!),  'A list 

about

> > >

> > >>>>>>all  things Killing Joke (the band!)'

> > >>>>>>Subject:  Re: [kj] Extremities

> > >>>>>>

> >  >>>>>>PANDEMONIUM has more filler than EXTREMITIES.

>  > >>>>>>Alex in NYC

> >  >>>>>>

> > >>>>>>

> >  >>>>>>

> > >>>>>>

> >  >>>>>>

> > >>>>>>-----Original  Message-----

> > >>>>>>From: Brendan

> >  >>>>>>Sent: Mar 15, 2010 11:59 AM

> >  >>>>>>To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the  band!)'"

> > >>>>>>Subject: Re: [kj]  Extremities

> > >>>>>>

> >  >>>>>>I don't mind it but Pandy pisses all over it. Ade  agrees with 

me.

> > >>>>>>

> >  >>>>>>

> > >>>>>>

> >  >>>>>>

> > >>>>>>

> >  >>>>>>

> > >>>>>>

> >  >>>>>>From: 

> >  

>>>>>><http://sn109w.snt109.mail.live.com/mail/RteFrame_15.1.3039.0211.ht

>  > >ml?pf=pf#>gathering-bounces at misera.net 

> >  >>>>>>[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of  Neil Perry

> > >>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, 16 March 2010  2:52 AM

> > >>>>>>To: A list about all things  Killing Joke (the band!)

> > >>>>>>Subject: Re:  [kj] Extremities

> > >>>>>>

> >  >>>>>>

> > >>>>>>

> >  >>>>>>

> > >>>>>>

> >  >>>>>>

> > >>>>>>

> >  >>>>>>I never really liked Extremities.

> >  >>>>>>Too thrashy. I give Termite Mound and North of the  Border a 

blast

> > >>>>>>now and again.

>  > >>>>>>

> > >>>>>>I'll get me  coat

> > >>>>>>

> >  >>>>>>N

> > >>>>>>

> >  >>>>>>

> > >>>>>>

> >  >>>>>>

> > >>>>>>On 15 March 2010  16:00, n0153 jr 

> >  

>>>>>><<http://sn109w.snt109.mail.live.com/mail/RteFrame_15.1.3039.0211.h

>  > >tml?pf=pf#>nomeanswhat at gmail.com> 

> >  >>>>>>wrote:

> > >>>>>>

>  > >>>>>>

> > >>>>>>except  Hosannas isn't as terrible as OTG... I actually like it a

> >  >lot.

> > >>>>>>

> >  >>>>>>

> > >>>>>>

> >  >>>>>>On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Rob Moss 

>  >  

>>>>>><<http://sn109w.snt109.mail.live.com/mail/RteFrame_15.1.3039.0211.h

>  > >tml?pf=pf#>rob.moss at gmx.com> 

> >  >>>>>>wrote:

> > >>>>>>

>  > >>>>>>

> > >>>>>>

>  > >>>>>>

> > >>>>>>

>  > >>>>>>Been a while since I gave this a listen and was  blown away by 

just

> > >how 

> >  >>>>>>good this one really is.

> >  >>>>>>I remember the sense of anticipation when this one  came out 

after

> > >the 

> > >>>>>>way  that OTG was perceived.

> > >>>>>>This ticked all  the boxes at the time.

> > >>>>>>

> >  >>>>>>

> > >>>>>>Kind of feel the  same about the new one!

> > >>>>>>

> >  >>>>>>

> > >>>>>>

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> Subject: Re: [kj] I'M GETTING SICK OF YOU  SO-CALLED GATHERERS..you

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> To: A list about all things Killing Joke  (the band!) 

> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 6:11 AM

> Subject:  Re: [kj] I'M GETTING SICK OF YOU SO-CALLED GATHERERS..you know 

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> There's only one way to sort this  out...FIGHT!

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