[kj] (OT) Tea Party

[Matthew Burke]

hey, those health insurance capitalists wrote the healthcare bill.

and i can see the baggers turning their back on you, either because they were bused in (that's a bipartisan practice), or because they mostly now consist of foxnews zombies who don't have an understanding of the issues or the constitution outside of what bill o'reilly tells them.

from a distance it's a lambs to the slaughter scenario.



From: gregslawson at msn.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 22:29:16 -0400
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Tea Party








START going off the rails? These are people (well...) who protest more people getting health care coverage! How sick can you get? And MSNBC has done some good 

exposes about how they are not a grassroots movement at all, but a creation of the health insurance capitalists--they sneakily create these front groups that pretend to be grassroots but are really tightly controlled by them. It wouldn't surprise me if the nuts that show up at their rallies are paid to do so. I tried to confront some of them in Boston last weekend, and they turned their backs on me like they were all under the same orders on what to do. And there was a demo in DC last weekend of 5-10,000 against the war, and another of 300 Tea Partiers--guess who got most of the media coverage?
 


Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 19:16:34 -0700
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Tea Party






At what point did the original Tea Party start going off the rails (at least as they're seen to recently)? was it when Dick Army and the GoP starting hovering over it with cash/encouragement/Palin waiting to see how they can best harness it, or am i far off the mark on the whole thing?
 
... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current state of things..]
 
'Who has the fun.. 
  ..is it always a man with a gun...? 
    Someone must have told him if you work too hard... you can sweat" 






From: Matthew Burke <marsboy1 at msn.com>
To: gathering <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Fri, March 26, 2010 6:37:42 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Tea Party



if i may interject a little info from outside the mainstream, the original "tea party" movement was made up of a somewhat diverse group of people, more libertarian in philosophy, and included a fair amount of representatives from the 911 truth movement, and was quite critical of the Bush regime.  

like any movement gaining momentum, agree with them or not, they were descended upon by the establishment.  now Republican money is flowing through its system and it's just another coopeted tool for the system, led by people like newt gingrich and glenn beck (who, by the way, repeatedly calls 911 truthers dangerous lunatics that are going to physically hurt the president).  now they are, rightly or not, framed as racist and violent.  discredited.  much the same was done to the anti-war movement during the Bush years, with establishment figures like george soros, through groups like moveon.org, directing the anti-war/anti-Bush sentiment of honest people until their candidate was elected.  now you hear barely a peep from the formerly vocal moveon or operation pink about the continuing and escalating illegal wars america is waging.

i just feel a need to defend these people (the first tea party) because i really dislike injustice . . . and at heart i do have a kindred belief that governments should leave people the fuck alone.

the media tells you what to believe and how to interpret it every day, don't believe it.

long post, sorry.

m



From: karen.weil at sddt.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 18:04:07 -0700
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Tea Party




It's not unreasonable to think that, given the way they've acted. 
 
k.w.
the States 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: LONESTYLE at aol.com 
To: gathering at misera.net 
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 5:41 PM
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Another thing too is they appeared after Obama won. I find them a bit prejudice and should be called the new Klan.
 
~LB
 

In a message dated 3/26/2010 2:59:18 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, karen.weil at sddt.com writes:

That's my biggest problem with this movement. I am 1,000 percent for free speech and the right to peacefully assemble and protest -- and that goes for the Tea Party. 
But like LB, I just wonder where the hell these people were when the GOP was in charge, spending like drunken sailors (and yes, I know more than a few Demos went along, and shame on them) -- on an unecessary and unjustified invasion, corporate welfare and other ridiculous things. 
This was also the same group that called anyone who questioned Bush "traitors," and "anti-American." 
Do I defend their right to speak their mind? Absolutely. I have no patience with their hypocrisy, however -- and have no use for the movement, otherwise. 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: LONESTYLE at aol.com 
To: gathering at misera.net 
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Tea Party


First they weren't there because it was a Republican president. And second I'm sure they were all for an illegal war and refuse to believe it was and justified. And third they are tea baggers what do you expect. ;)
 
 
~ LB
 
 
 
 
 
 

In a message dated 3/26/2010 11:27:04 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, folk.devil at hotmail.com writes:
Where were these 'tea party' people 8 years ago, when the US government started an illegal war that is costing billions, condoned torturing people, wire tapping our phones, and running the economy into the ground?... And now they're getting violent over healthcare, on the premise that it is taking away their freedom?







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