[kj] Latest Blog Post from Youth:

Karen Weil karen.weil at sddt.com
Thu Mar 11 13:16:16 EST 2010


Amen, Brendan.

k.w.
the States
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> "Obama DID inherit two wars and a pathetic economy on the brink of

> implosion, whether one likes it or not."

>

> The Republicans claim "yeah and he quadrupled the deficit"

>

> Forgetting that he did it with the bailout...which Bush started,

> Republicans

> voted for under Bush, and wouldn't vote for under Obama.

>

> You're fucked when your politicians put politics ahead of everything else.

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

> On

> Behalf Of B. Oliver Sheppard

> Sent: Thursday, 11 March 2010 7:36 AM

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] Latest Blog Post from Youth:

>

> That's certainly not the official government statistic, or even the U-6

> (I think that's what it's called) which counts the UNDER-employed etc as

> "jobless." Bu who can trust the govt., right? better to trust private

> industry standards.

>

> Having said that, I find it amusing that people have an amnesia that

> conveniently began on January 20, 2009, or so. Many people suddenly

> found their inner Libertarian on that day. Amazing!

>

> Unemployment is always usually higher than the official statistics. But

> the idea that the sun set and darkness in one month in January of last

> year is laughable. This has been a creping catastrophe that, yes,

> whether your favorite Republican/Libertarian talking points like it or

> not, did not start and/or end with Obama the

> NAZI/FASCIST/HIPPIE/SOCIALIST/DICTATOR/KENYAN/MUSLIM. It's a structural

> deficiency in our under-regulated, capitalist run economy. Most

> politicians in DC are lieutenants of the business community (i.e. bosses

> and employers). Obama DID inherit two wars and a pathetic economy on the

> brink of implosion, whether one likes it or not.

>

> The criticism one can have is: Has Obama done too much -- or too little?

> The right says he has done *too much*! ("Government takeovers," blah

> blah blah). He needs to sit on his hands, as FDR should have done during

> the Great Depression, reading the Greek classics in the Oval Office,

> letting the markets play themselves out and work out their own kinks,

> consequences be damned.

>

> Yet -- Obama was elected for a reason, which was not to be an absentee

> president, but to play a pro-active role in government to address these

> pressing, serious issues. He has actually failed on this account by

> being TOO beholden to industry, capitalist prerogatives, bankers' whims.

> etc. The current US economic climate is not because he hasn't been

> friendly enough to business. That is just Loony Tunes land, if you

> believe that sort of FOX News conspiranoid bullshit. He has been too

> craven in the face of private, capitalist power.

>

> Again: Obama, if anything, has been TOO craven to the whim of private

> business power - has not taken them on enough - unlike FDR, who had

> absolutely no p[roblem pissing off the right people and thus getting

> elected to 4 terms. Oh, and FDR also defeated fascism, while he was it.

> Republicans hate this. Obama is too beholden to private corporate

> interests and he needs to grow a pair and tell them to fuck off.

>

> -Oliver

>

>

> sade1 wrote:

>> The U.S. jobless rate is now about 22% (the pre-Crash-of-2007 official

>> rate was 4.5%),

>> but,

>> household incomes:

>>

> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/10/no-labor-market-recession_n_456797.

> html

>> $150K or more, now just *3.2%* jobless

>> $100-150K, it is now at 4%,

>> $0.00 - 12,500, it is now _/30.8%!/_

>> the lowest 10% of homes are 50% jobless,

>> 2nd lowest 10% of homes are 30% jobless,

>>

>> Also, "families with a net worth of at least $1 million, /_excluding

>> primary residences_/, *rose *to 7.8 million in 2009," an increase of

>> *16 percent*...from 6.7 million a year earlier, according to a survey

>> of high- net-worth U.S. households conducted by Spectrem Group"

>>

> http://www.truthout.org/number-millionaires-us-increased-16-percent-20095753

> 1

>>

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>>

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