[kj] The Complications opening for Killing Joke in Montreal

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i have had the same experience touring and gigging for the past 22 years

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>From: Leigh Newton <angrytomhanks at yahoo.com>

>Sent: Mar 4, 2010 12:52 PM

>To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>

>Subject: Re: [kj] The Complications opening for Killing Joke in Montreal

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>Well of course it's easy to slam Lydon for snubbing Minor Threat NOW but the fact is, and any touring band will attest to this, that most local openers FUCKING SUCK. I've seriously spent probably more time in my life "waiting to play" than anything else. The fact that Minor Threat opened that show is a totaly fluke. 

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>And I don't wanna hear any bullshit from you or Greg Slawson about how music and bands were so much better "back then". Point to any era in music, the good bands are always in the minority.

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>----- Original Message ----

>From: B. Oliver Sheppard <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>

>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>

>Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 11:13:20 AM

>Subject: Re: [kj] The Complications opening for Killing Joke in Montreal

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>Right.

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>Killing Joke opened for Motley Crue. Times have changed.

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>Not that KJ were ever part of the same sort of scene spoken of in, say "The Day the Country Died" (UK grassroots DIY etc., even though they did that weird thing with Honey Bane, who was on Crass Rex) or in the underground network that deveoped of he sort in "American Hardcore."

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>Still, I remember a time when a odunk, grassroots meaningless, let-s-just-automatically-refer-to-them-with-contempt-and-derision-for-no-good-reason type of band, Minor Threat, opened for PiL. Minor Threat were paid a pizza and coca-cola. You can hear Ian macKaye recount this experience bitterly in a few interviews. Lydon pulled up in a limo or something and refused to even meet Minor Threat. They were a podunk grasroots local band who weren't important, after all.

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>-Oliver

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>GREG SLAWSON wrote:

>> I remember in the old days of punk, in places like Boston (and LA, from the posters I've seen) there would be 3, 4, 5, or even more bands at a gig, for a reasonable price, w/no real headliner or opening bands. SST records bands were famous for this. And in Boston the garage/punk/power pop bands all collaborated and did gigs together, making for a real community atmosphere. These days music is much more segmented into sub-sub-sub genres, and there is less of a community feeling.

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