[kj] The Complications opening for Killing Joke in Montreal

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Thu Mar 4 14:09:51 EST 2010


The minor threat story is not unique. Sorry if this story has all ready been told, as I just noticed this thread, but right around the same time as the Minor threat incident must have happened, the Boston band Mission of Burma played their (I think) last show (until reforming a few years ago) opening for PIL at some venue in NewYork. PIL's sound man supposedly shut the pa off on them and the band was forced to turn the stage monitors towards the audience so they could hear SOMETHING other than stage volume. Always liked PIL but what a bunch of d-bags. - CP





-----Original Message-----
From: Leigh Newton <angrytomhanks at yahoo.com>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Thu, Mar 4, 2010 1:52 pm
Subject: Re: [kj] The Complications opening for Killing Joke in Montreal


Well of course it's easy to slam Lydon for snubbing Minor Threat NOW but the
fact is, and any touring band will attest to this, that most local openers
FUCKING SUCK. I've seriously spent probably more time in my life "waiting to
play" than anything else. The fact that Minor Threat opened that show is a
totaly fluke.

And I don't wanna hear any bullshit from you or Greg Slawson about how music and
bands were so much better "back then". Point to any era in music, the good bands
are always in the minority.
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----- Original Message ----
From: B. Oliver Sheppard <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 11:13:20 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] The Complications opening for Killing Joke in Montreal

Right.

Killing Joke opened for Motley Crue. Times have changed.

Not that KJ were ever part of the same sort of scene spoken of in, say "The Day
the Country Died" (UK grassroots DIY etc., even though they did that weird thing
with Honey Bane, who was on Crass Rex) or in the underground network that
deveoped of he sort in "American Hardcore."

Still, I remember a time when a odunk, grassroots meaningless,
let-s-just-automatically-refer-to-them-with-contempt-and-derision-for-no-good-reason
type of band, Minor Threat, opened for PiL. Minor Threat were paid a pizza and
coca-cola. You can hear Ian macKaye recount this experience bitterly in a few
interviews. Lydon pulled up in a limo or something and refused to even meet
Minor Threat. They were a podunk grasroots local band who weren't important,
after all.

-Oliver


GREG SLAWSON wrote:

> I remember in the old days of punk, in places like Boston (and LA, from the

posters I've seen) there would be 3, 4, 5, or even more bands at a gig, for a
reasonable price, w/no real headliner or opening bands. SST records bands were
famous for this. And in Boston the garage/punk/power pop bands all collaborated
and did gigs together, making for a real community atmosphere. These days music
is much more segmented into sub-sub-sub genres, and there is less of a community
feeling.

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