[kj] The Complications opening for Killing Joke in Montreal

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That is *very* cool.  Imagine Killing Joke doing that... you can't?  Thought not.



PS One of the millions of times I saw the Minutemen, Mike Watt was making up the setlist on posterboard in their van before the show. He said "what songs do you want to hear"? and wrote down my answers on the set list. Cool.







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From: GREG SLAWSON <gregslawson at msn.com>
To: gathering <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 21:05
Subject: Re: [kj] The Complications opening for Killing Joke in Montreal


THe best Flag show I ever saw was in Cleveland, 1982 perhaps. My friend (who didn't like punk) and Chuck Dukowski, from a maybe foot-high stage,  heckled each other in between songs. Rollins, wearing LONG and BAGGY shorts and nothing else (of course), during a slow song (Damaged II?) crawled across the floor on his stomach for about 10 minutes, thru all the spilt beer, broken glass, etc. right thru the audience, which respectfully parted. The rest of the time the audience was swaying back & forth like big waves. At another show I saw Rollins loading the drum set into the van after the gig (no big expenses like roadies). I also went backstage before the show and told Greg Ginn that I never got my "My Rules" t-shirt that I'd mail ordered. He wrote down my name and address, put it in his guitar case, and a few weeks later I got my shirt in the mail. THey really were a band-o-the-people.
PS One of the millions of times I saw the Minutemen, Mike Watt was making up the setlist on posterboard in their van before the show. He said "what songs do you want to hear"? and wrote down my answers on the set list. Cool.
 

> Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 12:11:05 -0800

> From: angrytomhanks at yahoo.com

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] The Complications opening for Killing Joke in Montreal

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> Black Flag certainly did suck after awhile. Rollins was a big part of it, I think, but not completely. His initial time in the band (the Damaged era) was shit-hot. Probably all the way up until Dez and Chuck Dukowski left the band. My War and every album that followed are all pretty terrible. It's not just Rollins though. I think Bill Stevenson and Kira are SO overrated in that band. I've never heard so much praise for such a stiff, awkward and boring rhythm section. 

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> ----- Original Message ----

> From: B. Oliver Sheppard <bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net>

> To: "gath >> "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)"" <gathering at misera.net>

> Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 11:56:37 AM

> Subject: Re: [kj] The Complications opening for Killing Joke in Montreal

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> I love Venom's 1st two albums, from like 1980 - 1982.

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> But this was like 1985 when Venom had turned badly cheese metal wanky and also, to be fair, Black Flag were sucking big time at that time, too, in my opinion. Whenever the time was right before they ultimately broke up, somewhere around then.

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> Henry "Rollins" Garfield was starting to bulk up, show up to shows with his new tats and muscles and long hair, and tiny sweaty black shorts and nothing else on, and singing songs like "Who's Got the 10 1/2".  I hate that era of Black Flag with a passion. It was probably a pretty hilarious show,overall, to see wank-metal era Venom come on after Rollins and his tiny black shorts playing their shittiest songs.

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> --Oliver

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> Alex Smith wrote:

> > Let's not go cutting on Venom, shall we?

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> > My nextdoor neighbor is a Seattle transplant and told me some story of how Green River opened up for PiL in Seattle back in the good ol' days and Lydon treated them similarly shittily. When Green River informed the crowd of same, the audience turned on PiL viciously. This, I've heard tell, is the origin of the PiL song titled -- wait for it -- "Seattle."

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