[kj] KJ 2010 Tour Support:
Rheinhold Squeegee
kjlist at live.com
Fri Jul 30 15:59:30 EDT 2010
I saw several DJ headline shows in the late 90's, including Chemical Brothers, The Orb and Aphex Twin, where Richard James spent the entire show on a sofa onstage playing video games while the "music" played behind him. His contempt for the "DJ as performer" persona was obvious. At least Fatboy Slim put his little booth in the middle of the dance floor when he toured, thus facilitating the real purpose of any DJ: getting women intoxicated and me laid. Back then, at least. Now, not so much.
DJs aren't meant to be watched, unless you're Kool Herc in Brooklyn, c. 1975.
Funny story: I saw KJ play in Cleveland in 1994 (among many other places) and after Stabbing Westward the house sound guy put on a mix of Black Crowes, Collective Soul and Blind Melon. After about 15 minutes, Youth came running out across the dance floor, jumped behind the sound board, cut the CD in mid-song and put on some trancey dub stuff. At the time, I really appreciated the gesture.
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:17:38 -0700
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com
To: vassifer at earthlink.net; gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] KJ 2010 Tour Support:
I think everyone's missing the point (or just having a damn good humourous stab at djs). Just like nobody ever bought a record to watch it spin (not even a Killing Joke album), nobody ever goes to a club to watch the dj. Ever.
Watching him has nothing to do with what he does to the place. Just like no one ever turned on the radio (in its early years) to watch the radio but instead to let the story being told take you to an awesome place (think 'War Of The Worlds'). Also, no one ever went to an ancient storyteller just to watch him, but instead to trip out on his magickal storytelling talents that can take you to 'a much better place.' Only with a quality-dj/club you do the same for $20 + 2drink.minimum.
And yes, there is something magickal-squared to an awesome live performance that makes it better, IMO, than any dj gig and is why I will always prefer live gigs, but still, a good DJ who can really "carry a room" (and for, say, 4hrs. vs. a 90min. gig) is very much worth paying for also.
... ... ... ... ... ...
[looking at the current state of things..]
'Who has the fun..
..is it always a man with a gun...?
Someone must have told him if you work too hard... you can sweat"
From: Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>; gathering at misera.net
Sent: Thu, July 29, 2010 1:56:39 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] KJ 2010 Tour Support:
Regardless if one's a fan of the music or not, the fact remains that a d.j. on a stage is not much to *watch*. It kinda begins and ends there, as far as I'm concerned,.
Alex in NYC
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From: folk devil
Sent: Jul 29, 2010 4:51 PM
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] KJ 2010 Tour Support:
Fair go, DJ culture did get somewhat out of control during the 90s, but I have been to many an 'event' where the main attraction is the DJ. Also been to many events where you know that the DJ is 'somewhere' around ;)
I am a technohead, and the witnessing of producers like Jeff Mills have been some of the best experiences of my life :)
From: humanhybrid666 at gmail.com
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 07:36:49 +1200
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] KJ 2010 Tour Support:
..i like seeing bands! not some self important noddy twiddling knobs grooving away to himself behind a desk with big ears (headphones).
overly critical and simplistic, but i've never gone to a club to see a dj 'play' and dont intend to - thats for other people. when i go out to see live music i look fwd to one or two opening bands before the main band, its just more kosher... =)
"due to a lack of trained trumpeters, the end of the world has been postponed indefinitely..."
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 3:41 AM, folk devil <folk.devil at hotmail.com> wrote:
What's wrong with DJs opening?
Just curious why you think so :)
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