[kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 83, Issue 83

Brendan Quinn bq at soundgardener.co.nz
Wed Jul 28 22:46:11 EDT 2010


Oh I love Pandemonium. There's all sorts here. And there's no general
consensus that In Excelsis sucks. Far from it. There's even fans of Outside
the Gate and Hosannas, the later has some excuse, the former only like it
cos he had a random peak experience with a cape-wearing Jaz playing OTG for
him on cassette in his Mini or VW or something on the way to see his Mum in
Cheltenham (Jaz that is) so he feels obliged to say it's okay, but I know
from firsthand experience that he actually has some taste in music =)



PS: Darren, what colour was the cape...just out of interest.





From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Dominico C
Sent: Thursday, 29 July 2010 9:34 a.m.
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] Gathering Digest, Vol 83, Issue 83



I just received my CD In Excelsis EP a few days ago. Sorry to disappoint the
rest of the Gatherers, but I liked it and found it to be the best KJ
recording in 16 years!!! It Rocks!!!

Oh, ... yeah... I am a Democracy and Pandemonium fan, along with most of the
back catalog. No, its not reflecting on the back catalog, its not old joke,
but that's why I love about the Joke.... They are always growing!!!

In Excelsis ROCKS!!!

I love the Dub tracks and I hear a lot of Democracy similarities and in my
opinion, it was mixed very well.- Unlike Hossanas. And I found the new
recordings are way more consistent than the last 2 albums!

The Absolute Descent and In Excelsis recordings should have been the
successor to Democracy.


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> 1. Re: KJ in China? (Janean)

> 2. Re: "In Excelsis" CD: (Alex Smith)

> 3. Re: "In Excelsis" CD: (fatpotanga)

> 4. Re: In Excelsis (wo2 at gmx.de)

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> Message: 1

> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 13:46:00 +0100

> From: "Janean" <j at jlancaster.info>

> Subject: Re: [kj] KJ in China?

> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke \(the band!\)'"

> <gathering at misera.net>

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> <<< By the way, my name translated into Chinese and then back again comes

> out as Raspberry Hair mousse. >>>

>

>

>

> Ha! Glad to see a serious thread on world politics return to something

much

> more on my level. :-)

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

On

> Behalf Of Rob Moss

> Sent: 20 July 2010 23:39

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] KJ in China?

>

>

>

> Ooops!

>

>

>

> And you could say the same of the UK USA Australian govts too ( feel free

to

> add to the lists).

>

>

>

> All regimes elected or otherwise, corrupt themselves the very moment they

> get into office.

>

>

>

> Want to talk about Human Rights? Why the fuck is Guantanamo bay still

open?

> Why is there a warehouse full

>

> of people who want asylum less than 10 miles from my house?

>

> Why are so called civilized nations still putting people to death for

their

> crimes?

>

> Why did the UK govt lie and lie and lie about Iraq and the economy.

>

>

>

>

>

> Our problem in the west is that we can't accept failure or criticism.

>

>

>

> Why do people have such a downer on China? Without it We are all fucked!

>

>

>

> Sure China ain't perfect but it's a whole lot better than it was. It's

> moving forwards whilst I sometimes think we are running backwards.

>

>

>

> By the way, my name translated into Chinese and then back again comes out

as

> Raspberry Hair mousse.

>

> Those that know me will see the irony!!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> On 20 Jul 2010, at 23:14, Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>

>

> The pre-80s era was also characterized by massive human rights violations,

> insane and counterproductive business practices and corruption on a

immense

> scale.

>

>

>

> (To be fair, they've partially managed to sort out the business practices

> issue).

>

> Oh, and let's not forget the Chinese government's fondness for lying

through

> their teeth about their 'successes'.

>

>

>

> Jim.

>

>

> --- On Tue, 20/7/10, GREG SLAWSON <gregslawson at msn.com> wrote:

>

> Examples of pre-1980s practices: eliminating many diseases and widespread

> opium addiction (and rehab and social integration of addicts, rather

> than jail as in the US), and spreading literacy to most of the population

> (creating a phonetic alphabet helped).

> Some interesting books by Westerners who lived in China during the sort-of

> communist period:

> "Away With All Pests" by a doctor who witnessed the health care movement;

> "Fanshen", by William Hinton, an agriculture specialist

> who lived in a red-controlled village and was fluent in Chinese. It talks

> about many things, including how party leaders could be recalled by

popular

> vote

> in the village (and anyone could vote regardless of party membership).

> There's another book (forgot the name) by a British industrial expert who

> witnessed the worker-run tractor factories. He describes how everything

from

> work hours to child care was decided by the workers, in what

> seemed like chaos compared to our regimented work lives in the West, and

> that he saw them produce more than any European factory ever did.

>

>

>

> _____

>

>

> From: <mailto:karen.weil at sddt.com> karen.weil at sddt.com

> To: <mailto:gathering at misera.net> gathering at misera.net

> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:49:09 -0700

> Subject: Re: [kj] KJ in China?

>

> In the purest sense? No. But certainly, they carried out more of the

> practices that define a communist gov't -- until some free-market ideals

> were introduced in the early 80s.

>

> Doesn't matter, now -- the regime there is still miserable.

>

>

>

> K.W.

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> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 1:43 PM

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> Subject: Re: [kj] KJ in China?

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>

>

> was it ever?

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> From: <http://uk.mc259.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=karen.weil@sddt.com>

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> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 11:54:04 -0700

> Subject: Re: [kj] KJ in China?

>

> Totally agree with Greg on this. China's gov't. is hardly communist

anymore.

>

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> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:48:48 +0200

> From: wo2 at gmx.de

> Subject: Re: [kj] In Excelsis

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>

> yesterday the >In excelsis< cd arrived

> in my mailbox here in germoney.

> could not find a number.

>

> one good song - kali yuga

> is better than nothing or as we say here :

> immer nu besser als in die hohle h?nd gschissn

> (still better than to cup shit in one's hands)

>

> :-/

>

> wolfi

>

>

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> -------- Original-Nachricht --------

> > Datum: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 12:26:35 +0200

> > Von: "Rob Moss" <rob.moss at gmx.com>

> > An: "Gathering" <gathering at misera.net>

> > Betreff: [kj] In Excelsis

>

> > ?

> >

> > Just thought i would mention that I have received my order of the CD

from

> > Finland in order to post to Mr Smiff in Hicksville, NYC.

> >

> > The CD only release comes in a jewel case with the same artwork as the

10

> > inch.

> > The CD that came with the 10" as a package is only in a slip case with

> > different artwork.

> > I've seen these appear on eBay as "promos"

> >

> > What an exciting life I lead if I consider THIS shite newsworthy!!

> >

> > Smiffy, it's in the post tonight mate!

>

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