[kj] Off Topic-Killing Joke (MK 1991)

phil phil.tofield at virgin.net
Mon Jan 4 12:45:30 EST 2010


The dick from Headless promotions (cant remember his name now) was
responsible for cocking that one up. The gig was at Stantonbury
leisure centre (a stones throw from my flat at the time) but he sent a
press release out to the national music papers advertising it at The
Pitz, a much smaller venue across the other side of town. Hence the
gig was only half full as many people had gone to the wrong venue. He
then (apparently) tried to blame KJ for not being able to pull in a
full crowd and said that he would only pay them half their fee. Not
surprising they pulled out really. No one got their money back either.

On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 00:22:58 +0000, you wrote:


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>That was the night before the Brixton Academy show and I doubt there was a good review of Milton Keynes because Killing Joke didn't actually play after a row with the promoters. Firstly, we faffed around driving as the venue had been changed then I stood there for several hours, enduring the 2 support bands ( http://home.clara.net/antoni/KJMK91.jpg ) - The Prime Movers played plus Loose rather than Dr Phibes who had been kicked off the tour after some issues) before the news was broken to the assembled punters after 11pm & it all went off a bit ... Regards, Antoni

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>From: adrianwason at btinternet.com

>To: gathering at misera.net

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>"The group managed the whole thing magnificently, employing controlled bursts of overkill to produce a sense of high drama and creating a musical spectacle of supreme uncaring arrogance.In rock music the bridge between anger & euphoria is short indeed.Plainly it has taken Killing Joke more than ten years to find out how angry they can get"-David Sinclair

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>"At this moment in time there isn't a band on this planet capable of getting anywhere near the unaldertered power and intensity Kiling Joke create live.Their time has finally come and someone somewhere is laughing-Andy Peart

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>"The impact Killing Joke have on this packed crowd is virtually beyond description. It's a mixture of terror, joy and stark fasciantaion."-Dave Simpson

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>These quotes were from the initial Extremities tour in Uk& there is even a good one of the Milton Keynes gig 6 months later at the end of the tour but I can't find it.

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>That was a band at its' absolute best. We've got a different rythmyn section now to what was probably the best in the world apart from Pasons/Raven. Rise to the challenge BPF & Youth!If Youth kept his head down & got on with it like the guy from Pendulum that would work. The thing that bothers me is that there is so much unfulfilled potential there in KJ & wasted albums-not quite as many as Prefab Sprout whereas as far as i know halfy from Prong has chucked everything out & I'm deliberatey not listening to the new track on the October File Myspace as music should be heard as a whole not instant 90 second hits. I really can't wait for his new October File Stuff-if only they were signed to Spinefarm!Fuck me just imagine if Mike Oldfield had to impact in this market? No more drinking cider in locals & flying your model aeroplane outside!

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> 1. a few vids ive poot up for yers. (jon chapman)

> 2. Re: a few vids ive poot up for yers. (Mike Cooper)

> 3. Re: a few vids ive poot up for yers. (Alexander Smith)

> 4. Re: a few vids ive poot up for yers. (jpwhkj at aol.com)

> 5. (OT) Rowland S Howard R.I.P. (folk devil)

> 6. Re: (OT) Rowland S Howard R.I.P. (Wessidetempest)

> 7. Re: (OT) Rowland S Howard R.I.P. (Karen Weil)

> 8. as far as, trying to go up against the govt..... (bongo)

> 9. Re: as far as, trying to go up against the govt..... (jon chapman)

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>Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:54:46 +0000

>From: jon chapman <jonniespatula at hotmail.co.uk>

>Subject: [kj] a few vids ive poot up for yers.

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>From: "Mike Cooper" <mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk>

>Subject: Re: [kj] a few vids ive poot up for yers.

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>Cheers Jon excellent stuff. Turn to Red is brilliant - that little run Jaz

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>From: Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>

>Subject: Re: [kj] a few vids ive poot up for yers.

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>Wow -- some amazing stuff here! Thanks, Jon!

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>Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:43:24 -0500

>From: jpwhkj at aol.com

>Subject: Re: [kj] a few vids ive poot up for yers.

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>Excellent... especially Mathematics of Chaos.

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>Thanks Jon!

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>From: jon chapman <jonniespatula at hotmail.co.uk>

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>Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:03:34 -0800

>From: folk devil <folk.devil at hotmail.com>

>Subject: [kj] (OT) Rowland S Howard R.I.P.

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>Happy New Year.. :[

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>From: Wessidetempest <wessidetempest at hotmail.com>

>Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Rowland S Howard R.I.P.

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>Wow. Major bummer. I was just looking into his latest activites. Bummer

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>From: "Karen Weil" <karen.weil at sddt.com>

>Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Rowland S Howard R.I.P.

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>Heard about this earlier; very sad. He far too young.

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>From: bongo <humanhybrid666 at gmail.com>

>Subject: [kj] as far as, trying to go up against the govt.....

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>that quote, from the start of total invasion, i heard when it came out, that

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>studio, but i just heard it on a doco, by one of the family members from

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>Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 11:23:03 +0000

>From: jon chapman <jonniespatula at hotmail.co.uk>

>Subject: Re: [kj] as far as, trying to go up against the govt.....

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>that quote, from the start of total invasion, i heard when it came out, that it was justa line phoned in by a secretary or something at the recording studio, but i just heard it on a doco, by one of the family members from ruby ridge... off the Jon Ronson series 'secret rulers of the world'...

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