[kj] Austin

sade1 saulomar1 at yahoo.com
Sat Feb 20 14:35:15 EST 2010


Ahh, tis a sunny morning here in Los Angeles, at 63* and in between storms for now..


> ..you get a sense that they were almost from another world.


   I can usually flash back to everything i can remember since "day 1"(at 3.y.o.) and all points in between, and how it's all evolved until nowadays, and I can see that all that older stuff and the older spirit, as "from another world" as it was, was also very much of this/their world at that time. (also compare the 2 Woodstock Festivals for a real "compare-n'-contrast"). 'Tis true even of Killing Joke.


> ..the tension, originality, passion etc. is clearly missing. ..Today, music.. is so passionless, watered down, and ultra-contrived. 

 
   Painfully true. I think it's all in keeping with the conservative, "veal" mentality, and Corporatization of America, among other places. Over-sanitation and -medication, too.  Before, music was an authentic, very and all too human, necessary expression. Today, it's a fabrication, a contrivance and worse: a device (and delivery vehicle).


> ..kids are used to thinking they can experience reality sitting in a chair with their Iphones...


   I think Nintendo is gonna roll out a Wii bodysuit so everyone and their SOs can play at having sex for big points. The Wii wand is optional.



... ... ... ... ... ...

[looking at the current state of things..]
 
'Who has the fun..
  ..is it always a man with a gun...?
    Someone must have told him if you work too hard... you can sweat" 




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From: GREG SLAWSON <gregslawson at msn.com>
To: gathering <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Fri, February 19, 2010 11:47:39 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] Austin

I think part of it, Oliver, is we're living in a time when there is almost NO spontenaety. Most music is a rehash of a rehash of a rehash,
and the few old-timers that are left seem just that, old (with a few exceptions who can still strike a chord w/audiences, like Stiff Little Fingers, Gang of Four, and maybe the Buzzcocks on a good night). Music in the period from 1976-1985 had so much that was new, weird, and even dangerous/disturbing. Just look at old footage of concerts or tv appearances by early Devo, Clash, Black Flag, Speicals, and even relatively mainstream bands like Talking Heads, and you get a sense that they were
almost from another world. Bands now try to all be louder/harder/crazier than the next, but the tension, originality, passion etc. is clearly missing. For me, few things
can compare to seeing the Joke in a tiny discoteque w/the lights on playing to a few dozen people in Houston TexASS in 1981, or Henry Rollins crawling through broken
glass on the floor wearing only shorts, or Bad Manners dumping buckets of water on an audience of 30--at a large rock club, since the small club they were booked at didn't have a stage large enough to hold the band members-- in Cleveland (both early 80s), or the guitarist from Jason & the Scorchers breaking up fights in the audience w/one had while still playing the guitar w/the other, and countless other shows. Today, music (from rock to country to "r & b") is so passionless, watered down, and ultra-contrived. Even world music from Africa, Middle East, India, etc. is done on synthesizer now instead of traditional instruments. And kids are used to thinking they can experience reality sitting in a chair with their Iphones or whaterver--hell, they don't even buy cd's w/lyrics, cover art, etc. but just download individual songs, thinking that they're really experiencing music! I think those of us who were around when it was real have much higher
expectations. If only kids today knew that coming home from a show soaked in the sweat of the 80 or so people in the audience was really music, not seeing Kings of Leon, or "cover" bands like Interpole/Bravery etc. an air-conditioned ampitheater!
 

> Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 21:47:45 -0600

> From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] Austin

>

> Yeah, it's weird - or not?

>

> I often go out expecting something amazing to happen, yet the opposite

> does. You go home asleep, alone, and have this weird feeling of

> existential confusion/loneliness.

>

> Seeing the The Dicks (live!) and then dancing to Killing Joke next door

> would probably make any sane person happy. I went away from it all

> feeling very hollow. Maybe it's me. The Dicks can do no wrong, vis a vis

> "Rich Daddy": <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDwSqERSSh0>

>

> I was so stoked, excited when they played it, being raised by a single

> mom myself (with no rich daddy, etc.) - it's like one of the great

> all-time punk classics to me. Like Seeing The Ramones do "Sheena is..."

> Yet getting shoved around and then ultimately leaving it all feeling

> like it's actually not worth a hill of beans? Blegh. At least I got to

> dance to Killing Joke after that, even if it was by myself! :)

>

> -0liver

>

>

>

> Brendan wrote:

> > Being a smarty...the lyrics are all about Morrissey (or some 3rd person)

> > being cajoled to go out when they don't feel like it, having a miserable

> > time and coming home and feeling worse...or something ;)

> >

> > Which is my experience about 80% of the time going to clubs (hence I prefer

> > gigs)

> >

> >

> >

>

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