[kj] The war criminal Blair ?
The Exorcist
killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com
Tue Feb 16 18:06:24 EST 2010
This is no Joke. I used to go to sleep to it
almost every night and now it's gone.
Can you blame me for being up all night posting youtube clips?
I want it back!
At 05:57 PM 2/16/2010, Karen Weil wrote:
>
>Dear Exo: Just hang out at Area 51. You'll do fine. ; )
>
>Cheers,
>
>Karen
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com>The Exorcist
>To: <mailto:gathering at misera.net>A list about
>all things Killing Joke (the band!)
>Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 2:48 PM
>Subject: Re: [kj] The war criminal Blair ?
>
>And they took Coast to Coast off AM radio here in NY.
>I am in mourning.
>
>BASTARDS! :(
>
>At 05:13 PM 2/16/2010, Brendan wrote:
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>>Sade...and any other ‘conspiracy y
>>theorist̢۪ (Bongo!) this is a seminal
>>conspiracy theory video, if you can get over
>>the irritating MC constantly telling everyone
>>to shut up, and focus on the CIA Director̢۪s
>>body language (read: squirm), you̢۪ll get an
>>an insight into a bit more of what the CIA has
>>been up to. (Ruppert contends that the guy
>>subsequently lost a guaranteed position as
>>Defence Secretary for his terrible handling of this accusation...)
>>
>><http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDGviyhZba0>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDGviyhZba0
>>
>>Mike Ruppert is fascinating to listen to on
>>this topic; if you look him up on youtube
>>he̢۪s gone into the topic in in
>>depth...(makes occupying the poppy capital of the world more understandable...)
>>
>>From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [
>>mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1
>>Sent: Wednesday, 17 February 2010 8:42 AM
>>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
>>Subject: Re: [kj] The war criminal Blair ?
>>
>>How about a list of U.S. employees (servants,
>>psychophants, minions, etc.) who were allowed
>>to become enemies or seriously stray off the
>>reservation, whether by design or stupidity.
>>
>>World Leaders/world players who were
>>CIA agents (employed by, "contracted"
>>by, trained by or beholden to the CIA):
>>
>>Ho Chi Minh (Vietnam)
>>Manuel Noriega (Panama)
>>Stroessner? (Argentina)
>>Idi Amin Dada (Uganda)
>>Augustus Pinochet (Chile)
>>Robert D'Aubuisson (El Salvador)
>>Anastasio Somoza (Nicaragua)
>>Hamid Karzai (Afghanistan)
>>his brother Ahmed Wali (Afghanistan)
>>Saddam Hussein (iRaq)
>>Osama Bin Laden (Yemen, Sudan, Afghanistan)
>>
>>Humam Khalil Abu-Mulal al-Balawi (Jordanian doctor in Afghani., 2010)
>>
>>others employed by/beholden to) by
>>other U.S. executive branch Agencies...
>>Fidel Castro?? (but
>><http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/About/General/2009/10/26/1256597828344/Fidel-Castros-sister-Juan-001.jpg>his
>>sister was CIA)
>>Papa Doc Duvalier (Haiti)
>>Baby Doc Duvalier (Haiti)
>>Jaz Coleman (UK, NZ)
>>
>>... ... ... ... ... ...
>>
>>[looking at the current state of things..]
>>
>>'Who has the fun..
>> ..is it always a man with a gun...?
>> Someone must have told him if you work too hard... you can sweat"
>>
>>
>>
>>From: Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
>>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
>>Sent: Mon, February 15, 2010 1:30:20 PM
>>Subject: Re: [kj] The war criminal Blair ?
>>Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden were US
>>sponsored nutcases in the first place, I
>>don̢۪t know how anyone in the he US can trust
>>their govt in the slightest and I can
>>sympathise with the current unprecedented level
>>of dissatisfaction with govt (Dem or Republican
>>it doesn̢۪t really make any difference). Look
>>out if the economy heads back down again cos
>>Americans are justifiably pretty pissed off
>>with spending trillions to bail out banks, and
>>on wars to suppress problems they̢۪ve paid id
>>their govt to lie about and create with their
>>tax dollars for the last few decades.
>>
>><http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/press.htm>http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/press.htm
>>
>>
>>From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [
>>mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1
>>Sent: Tuesday, 16 February 2010 8:08 AM
>>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
>>Subject: Re: [kj] The war criminal Blair ?
>>
>>That - hypothetically - iRaq may have invaded
>>anyway and - hypothetically - would've started
>>a war doesn't deny that the U.S. in fact did go
>>ahead and greenlight Saddam's real, actual
>>invasion. We'll never know, except for what
>>actually did happen and how it happened. And a greenlight is a greenlight.
>>
>>The original point by Fluke was whether Gulf
>>War 1 was legal, so only real actions can be
>>judged, not hypothetical
>>"he-would've-done-so-anyway" suppositions. The
>>can law only address real, manifest actions and motives, and nothing else.
>>So the guilty parties have been proven to be
>>Kuwait, iRaq, and the U.S. It's been
>>established fact almost since GW1 was over and off the media radar.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>... ... ... ... ... ...
>>
>>[looking at the current state of things..]
>>
>>'Who has the fun..
>> ..is it always a man with a gun...?
>> Someone must have told him if you work too hard... you can sweat"
>>
>>
>>
>>From: Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>
>>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
>>Sent: Mon, February 15, 2010 12:27:20 PM
>>Subject: Re: [kj] The war criminal Blair ?
>>Yeah, 'cos Hussein hung on the words of the US
>>ambassador all the time. You can tell from the
>>way he withdrew his troops from Kuwait when
>>told to and co-operated fully with UN weapons inspectors.
>>
>>Oh wai-
>>
>>--- On Mon, 15/2/10, sade1 <saulomar1 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > The First Gulf war was legitimate
>>
>> I remember reading that,
>> among<http://chloesplace.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/funny-pictures-improved-yarnball-has-a-prize-inside.jpg>
>> a huge yarnball of issues/smokescreens, the
>> Kuwaitis (w/u.s. wink & nods) drilled for oil
>> on the iRaq side of the border with
>> slanted-drilling gear on the Kuwaiti side
>> (w/Brit. gear, confirmed by the manufacturer
>> using said gear's serial numbers) - an illegal act of sovereign theft.
>> Then, when Saddam Hussein (after receiving
>> from u.s. $3bil in agri-loans [read,
>> military]) asked the US ambassador Glaspie the
>> U.S. position on his plans to face off
>> w/Kuwait, madame Ambassador (ambassatrix?)
>> said, "the U.S. has no opinion on Arab/Arab
>> conflicts..." Talk about greenlighting a
>> tyrant to do whatever he wants, that was it.
>>
>> So, basically, um, "somebody" was being
>> <http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&safe=off&um=1&q=michael+vick&sa=N&start=20&ndsp=20>'Michael
>> Vick' there, baiting both sides in order to
>> get a damn good fight, and a boatoad of
>> ill-gotten gains, out of the whole thing.
>>
>>We've been living a hoax. someone's got us sussed.
>>
>>... ... ... ... ... ...
>>[looking at the current state of things..]
>>
>>'Who has the fun..
>> ..is it always a man with a gun...?
>> Someone must have told him if you work too hard... you can sweat"
>>
>>
>>From: Floren Luke <fluke1 at live.co.uk>
>>To: gathering at misera.net
>>Sent: Mon, February 15, 2010 12:20:19 AM
>>Subject: Re: [kj] The war criminal Blair ?
>>
>>
>>
>>The First Gulf war was legitimate , one of the
>>conditions of the ceasefire agreement was that
>>U.N. weapons inspectors can have full access to
>>Iraq anytime they like and they can go where ever they wanted .
>> Saddam refused to allow U.N. weapons
>> inspectors into to some sites in Iraq .
>>This contravenes the ceasefire agreement and
>>thus the second Gulf War was legitimate.
>>
>>
>>
>>----------
>>From: concrete_cookie at hotmail.com
>>To: gathering at misera.net
>>Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 16:16:39 -0800
>>Subject: Re: [kj] The war criminal Blair ?
>>He just told you what war crimes Tony Blair committed
>>a war crime is:
>>starting a war based on a lie
>>
>>get it?
>>
>>
>>
>>----------
>>From: fluke1 at live.co.uk
>>To: gathering at misera.net
>>Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 23:19:35 +0000
>>Subject: Re: [kj] The war criminal Blair ?
>>What war crimes did Tony Blair commit ?
>>
>>A war crime is :
>>Dressing up in an enemies uniform
>>Killing prisoners
>>Not feeding prisoners
>>And there are a few other things that constitute a war crime.
>>Do tell me why Tony Blair falls into the War criminal category.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 12:42:40 -0600
>> > From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net
>> > To: gathering at misera.net
>> > Subject: Re: [kj] The war criminal Blair ?
>> >
>> > Tony Blair IS a war criminal. I am with Jaz on this one. (So are Bush,
>> > Cheney, Rumsfed, et.al, by the way.)
>> >
>> > That isn't irrational, emotional hyperbole. It's a juridical fact.
>> >
>> > The Nuremberg Principles, established by the US and its allies (England,
>> > etc.) laid out clearly what constitutes a war crime.
>> >
>> > For ex.:
>> >
>> > Principle I. Any person who commits an act which constitutes a crime
>> > under international law is responsible
>> therefore and liable to punishment.
>> >
>> > Principle II. The fact that internal law does not impose a penalty for
>> > an act which constitutes a crime under international law does not
>> > relieve the person who committed the act from responsibility under
>> > international law.
>> >
>> > Principle III. The fact that a person who committed an act which
>> > constitutes a crime under international law acted as Head of State or
>> > responsible government official does not relieve him from responsibility
>> > under international law.
>> >
>> > The invasion of subsequent horror show in Iraq violated several UN laws.
>> > The UN is a treaty of the U.S. and UK and is is int'l law - or , at
>> > least, it is suppoosed to be regarded as such Not just invoked when
>> > convenient by war hawks in first world countries.
>> >
>> > Also see:
>> >
>> >
>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_Principles
>> >
>> >
>> > We could Nuremberg Principles selectively, sat, only to Japan and
>> > Germany ca. 1945 - but God forbid they actually apply to our heads of
>> > state as well! Blair, Bush, Cheney, and their enablers are all war
>> > criminals.
>> >
>> > -Oliver
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Floren Luke wrote:
>> > >
>> > > You fit the definition of a troll .
>> > > You made no contribution to the subject, you just name call.
>> > > You are the troll
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > > From: dpeace at bigfoot.com
>> > > To: gathering at misera.net
>> > > Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 02:16:54 +0000
>> > > Subject: Re: [kj] The war criminal Blair ?
>> > >
>> > > Troll.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Darren
>> > >
>> > > Hungerford, UK
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
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