[kj] The war criminal Blair ?

[Karen Weil]

Perhaps this has been mentioned in previous posts; I'm still catching up. 
Another interesting little fact is this:  Essentially, the U.S. all  but allowed Saddam to invade Kuwait. 
Once again, another example of highly misguided foreign policy -- and totally missed signals. 

http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=us_iraq_80s_809
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: sade1 
  To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) 
  Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 12:08 PM
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  > The First Gulf war was legitimate 

     I remember reading that, among a huge yarnball of issues/smokescreens, the Kuwaitis (w/u.s. wink & nods)  drilled for oil on the iRaq side of the border with slanted-drilling gear on the Kuwaiti side (w/Brit. gear, confirmed by the manufacturer using said gear's serial numbers) - an illegal act of sovereign theft. 
     Then, when Saddam Hussein (after receiving from u.s. $3bil in agri-loans [read, military]) asked the US ambassador Glaspie the U.S. position on his plans to face off w/Kuwait, madame Ambassador (ambassatrix?) said, "the U.S. has no opinion on Arab/Arab conflicts..." Talk about greenlighting a tyrant to do whatever he wants, that was it. 

    So, basically, um, "somebody" was being 'Michael Vick' there, baiting both sides in order to get a damn good fight, and a boatoad of ill-gotten gains, out of the whole thing.

  We've been living a hoax. someone's got us sussed.

  ... ... ... ... ... ... 

  [looking at the current state of things..]

  'Who has the fun.. 
    ..is it always a man with a gun...? 
      Someone must have told him if you work too hard... you can sweat" 





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  From: Floren Luke <fluke1 at live.co.uk>
  To: gathering at misera.net
  Sent: Mon, February 15, 2010 12:20:19 AM
  Subject: Re: [kj] The war criminal Blair ?

   
   
  The First Gulf war was legitimate , one of the conditions of the ceasefire agreement was that U.N. weapons inspectors can have full access to Iraq anytime they like and they can go where ever they wanted .
    Saddam refused to allow U.N. weapons inspectors into to some sites in Iraq .
  This contravenes the ceasefire agreement and thus the second Gulf War was legitimate.
   
   

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  From: concrete_cookie at hotmail.com
  To: gathering at misera.net
  Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 16:16:39 -0800
  Subject: Re: [kj] The war criminal Blair ?

  He just told you what war crimes Tony Blair committed

  a war crime is:
  starting a war based on a lie


  get it?  





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  From: fluke1 at live.co.uk
  To: gathering at misera.net
  Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 23:19:35 +0000
  Subject: Re: [kj] The war criminal Blair ?

  What war crimes did Tony Blair commit ?
   
  A war crime is :
  Dressing up in an enemies uniform
  Killing prisoners
  Not feeding prisoners
  And there are a few other things that constitute a war crime. 
  Do tell me why Tony Blair falls into the War criminal  category.
   
   
   

   
  > Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 12:42:40 -0600
  > From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net
  > To: gathering at misera.net
  > Subject: Re: [kj] The war criminal Blair ?
  > 
  > Tony Blair IS a war criminal. I am with Jaz on this one. (So are Bush, 
  > Cheney, Rumsfed, et.al, by the way.)
  > 
  > That isn't irrational, emotional hyperbole. It's a juridical fact.
  > 
  > The Nuremberg Principles, established by the US and its allies (England, 
  > etc.) laid out clearly what constitutes a war crime.
  > 
  > For ex.:
  > 
  > Principle I. Any person who commits an act which constitutes a crime 
  > under international law is responsible therefore and liable to punishment.
  > 
  > Principle II. The fact that internal law does not impose a penalty for 
  > an act which constitutes a crime under international law does not 
  > relieve the person who committed the act from responsibility under 
  > international law.
  > 
  > Principle III. The fact that a person who committed an act which 
  > constitutes a crime under international law acted as Head of State or 
  > responsible government official does not relieve him from responsibility 
  > under international law.
  > 
  > The invasion of subsequent horror show in Iraq violated several UN laws. 
  > The UN is a treaty of the U.S. and UK and is is int'l law - or , at 
  > least, it is suppoosed to be regarded as such Not just invoked when 
  > convenient by war hawks in first world countries.
  > 
  > Also see:
  > 
  > 
  > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_Principles
  > 
  > 
  > We could Nuremberg Principles selectively, sat, only to Japan and 
  > Germany ca. 1945 - but God forbid they actually apply to our heads of 
  > state as well! Blair, Bush, Cheney, and their enablers are all war 
  > criminals.
  > 
  > -Oliver
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > Floren Luke wrote:
  > > 
  > > You fit the definition of a troll .
  > > You made no contribution to the subject, you just name call.
  > > You are the troll
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
  > > From: dpeace at bigfoot.com
  > > To: gathering at misera.net
  > > Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 02:16:54 +0000
  > > Subject: Re: [kj] The war criminal Blair ?
  > >
  > > Troll.
  > >
  > > 
  > >
  > > Darren
  > >
  > > Hungerford, UK
  > >
  > > 
  > >
  > >
  > 
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