[kj] Random montreal track & Re: (Big Black with KJ)

[Dominico C]

Opening bands for KJ. I would really rather see Red Lorry Yellow Lorry open, 
rather than the crap I've seen open for them previously. When I saw KJ in 
2003, they had a crap metal band "Amen" open... In '94, they had Stabbing 
Westward open, but they weren't too bad...





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   1. Re: Pre-gig meet up-Chicago-Friday: Chicago shows appear to
      be sold out (Mark Kolmar)
   2. Re: Pre-gig meet up-Chicago-Friday: Chicago shows appear to
      be sold out (The Exorcist)
   3.  Random montreal track & Re: (Big Black with KJ) (Paul Richards)
   4. Re: (OT) An Absolute Joke (sade1)


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Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 12:29:18 -0600
From: Mark Kolmar <mkolmar at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] Pre-gig meet up-Chicago-Friday: Chicago shows appear
to be sold out
To: Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>, "A list about all things
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Just let the band start by 12m, and dispense with the "opener" cliche
please. Let's indulge a long dinner and conversation. Could the prospective
openers hand out a business card with a download URL instead? Along the line
of Aztec Camera, for today I'd rather see a show closer to Sufjan Stevens if
only to shake up a few expectations. Young Gods would be almost ideal.

--Mark

On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:


>  I have nothing against "screaming, roaring thrash metal," but I'm

> continually put off by the opening bands KJ have chosen (or had chosen

> for them) in recent years. They seem to confirm every lame stereotype that

> KJ is saddled with. The last thing Killing Joke needs -- in my opinion --  

> is

> another sci-fi fixated gaggle of purple-dreadlocked 'industrialists' in

> space goggles. Killing Joke should play with more adventurous

> envelope-pushers than fashion victims.

>

> Just my two cents.

>

> Alex in NYC

>

>

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> Subject: [kj] Pre-gig meet up-Chicago-Friday: Chicago shows appear to be

> sold out

>

>   Hi Reinhold,

> I'd rather hear an Aztec Camera-style band open for KJ, rather than the

> screaming, roaring, thrash metal that is instore for us, lol!  But that's

> just me!  I'll try to make it Saturday to Beauty Bar, but I'm having 

> dinner

> with people that night & I don't know when yet.

> I'm about 5' 7", with short white hair.  Not very stand-outish, but I'll

> look for you!  Have a safe journey!  Time for me to pack!

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Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 20:17:08 +0000
From: Paul Richards <green.sun1980 at gmail.com>
Subject: [kj]  Random montreal track & Re: (Big Black with KJ)
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Randomly picked track from montreal:

http://rapidshare.com/files/435942247/fall_montreal.wav


Antoni - I don't remember seeing Big Black. But then I don't remember seeing
Red Lorry Yerrow Lolly either.

cheers
paul


On 8 December 2010 16:05, pssyche23 <antoni at clara.net> wrote:


> oh blimey Paul, your memory is much better than mine but that's not

> difficult. Did you see Big Black that eve ? Were they on first ? 

> Intrigued

> now !!!

>

> Regards, Antoni

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

> On 8 Dec 2010, at 14:12, Paul Richards <green.sun1980 at gmail.com> wrote:

>

> Antoni - that was Joy - featuring Buzz & Aki from Southern Death Cult. I

> remember a couple of younger audience members in front of me who 

> obviously

> thought that was customary to boo/spit off support support bands at KJ 

> gigs.

> They were (verbally) shown the error of their ways by someone considerably

> older. (I don't mean me!)

>

> paul

>

>

> On 6 December 2010 20:31, pssyche23 < 

> <antoni at clara.net>antoni at clara.net>wrote:

>

>> *

>> http://www.songkick.com/concerts/3904911-killing-joke-at-hammersmith-palais/posters/639031*

>>

>>

>>

>> An interesting story there Jamie ? maybe I saw Big Black too and never

>> ever realised it !!! As per the gig flyer (link above), I?d always 

>> assumed

>> I?d seen the band ?Joy? as main support ... opening band Heist had played

>> twice with Killing Joke at the Palais in February 1985 ... the September

>> 1986 gig was pre-BTATS ... there was another one at the Hammersmith 

>> Palais

>> on 23/11/1986 with Red Lorry Yellow Lorry and the Guana Batz.

>>

>>

>>

>> Regards, Antoni

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Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 17:54:15 -0800 (PST)
From: sade1 <saulomar1 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) An Absolute Joke
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I'd be interested in what you comment about Zionism,?but if at some point 
you
do, can you refer to Zionism-in-Practice, as opposed to an abstract ideal? 
Am
not implying any bias on your part by me writing?that, just thought I'd ask.



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From: folk devil <folk.devil at hotmail.com>
To: gathering at misera.net
Sent: Thu, December 9, 2010 7:50:54 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) An Absolute Joke

Yes Exo, we all know that truth is subjective and that anyone carrying a gun 
is
far from peace loving.
Zionism to me is just Nationalism under another name, with is own agenda 
based
on prejudice.
?
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Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 04:07:33 -0500
From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) An Absolute Joke

I've been following Wikileaks since it's inception. They've gone after banks
before. That's not something new.

There are many nice nuggets of information there. (They even had their 
domain
taken down for a bit in 2008
by a judge because of a bank.)

Marsboy, name Israel all you want. If you got something to say, you ought to 
say
it and not be cowed.
(What exactly will it get you? Polonium-210?)

Noam chomsky is a baised Anti-Israel punk who'll stop at nothing to demonize 
the
country.

He's like the Alex Jones(x)10 towards Israel.

It's interesting to hear Chomsky discuss the US and Israel's "profound 
hatred of
democracy"? and having Iran in the same sentence.
If it doesn't make your ears perk up a bit and brain go "huh"....

Saying that Israel is a threat in the region is laughable. I don't think 
Syria,
Jordan, Iran, Iraq, or any other countries in the region
are worried about Israel invading and taking over their country. Nor is any 
part
of the world worried that Israel might decide to go
and launch nukes against "the infidels" in the name of Jehovah.

I'm also sad that Chomsky didn't discuss the secret of the Zionist sharks
trained by the Mossad.

http://bit.ly/gbhHOA

Re: Gaza and Hamas:
Hamas are lovely folks indeed. Check out this peace loving video clip played 
on
their TV.
Notice how they use the word Jews & not Zionists (the usual response is, oh 
no,
not the Jews, it's the damn Zionists we hate)
Christians and Commies as well!.
http://bit.ly/fedEmb ??

If Hamas keeps on trashing Gaza it's gonna be a mighty long time till they 
get
out of the dumps.
http://bit.ly/geekIU

Aaaaaaaaand. When you do stupid things like what is mentioned in the link 
below
you'll also suffer the consequences.
http://nydn.us/hyZ3mC

The ever so truthful Noam Chomsky fails to mention Operation Oil Stain by 
Hamas
http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=207221
Look at the date the article was published and then look at the date of
Operation Cast Lead.

The Israel breaking the truce is not quite as Mr. Chomsky says it to be. Nor
will you see this in the "Goldstone report"
or in the HRW reports. But please don't let facts get in the way of 
blinkered
views.

The amount of "civilians" killed? Hamas recently made quite a nifty 
revelation
http://bit.ly/apFFQe

A nice visual of Mr. Chomsky's truth: http://bit.ly/apFFQe

Next time, try to do a bit of research rather than quoting or referring to a
dishonest malcontent.


The irony of seeing people espouse "THE TRUTH" while pointing to lies never
ceases to amaze me!
Keep up the good fight of "misinformation". I wonder if the number is now
<4.9999999%

Cheerio Mate!

Food for thought... If you were forced to live in Israel, Jordan, Iran, 
Iraq,
Syria, under the rule of Hamas or Fatah whilst actively maintaining your
current lifestyle, hobbies and habits. Which would you pick? (I really 
really
hope that you're not a homosexual because that would basically
make this a non question.)

It also seems that Israel isn't the only one screwing over the Palestinians
these days.
http://bit.ly/geaxx0

Oy vey!

At 09:03 PM 12/8/2010, folk devil wrote:


I don't really go with the Tarpley clip. It just comes off as a nebulous 
rant,
that just goes around saying nothing.

>Wikileaks only elaborates on what the <5% of us already know, that we are 

>fed

>misinformation daily, and they are making it transparent.

>Good journalism, to me. Fighting misinformation with actual truthful

>information. If anything, Tarpley's argument reemphasizes the status quo of 

>an

>evil other, i.e. Pakistan, Iran.

>I personally wouldn't trust any Government, or bank.

>

>Re Clinton, Israel and the Arab 'people', cue Chomsky at around 7minutes

>30seconds

>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL1-NE6H-M0&feature=related

>

>________________________________

From: marsboy1 at msn.com

>To: gathering at misera.net

>Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 19:01:46 -0500

>Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) An Absolute Joke

>

>Yeah, I was trying to avoid naming Israel, you know what that'll get you.? 

>And

>the system always want the US to look bad to maintain the adversarial

>relationship with the rest of the world.

>

>

>

>

>?

>

>

>________________________________

Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 21:59:12 +0000

>From: jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk

>To: gathering at misera.net

>Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) An Absolute Joke

>

>A quick flick across recent news headlines reveals several items that make 

>the

>US, the UK and a great many of their allies look incompetent, spineless or

>self-aggrandizing. Whatever's going on beyond the scenes- and there may 

>well be

>a great deal that is- these leaks are clearly not intended to make us or 

>said

>allies look good.

>?

>Jim.

>

>--- On Wed, 8/12/10, Matthew Burke <marsboy1 at msn.com> wrote:

>

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I searched for an aggregate of the snippets I've been coming across, this'll
have to do, I have to feed and change my son any minute.? It's about 10 
minutes
of Webster Tarpley, who's always interesting, though I don't always agree 
with
him.? This clip concerns the last info dump and questions about Assange.? 
Keep
in mind I'm not fully convinced one way or the other.



Basically, what I've heard and read is that his funding can be traced to
intelligence associated institutions, that nothing he's revealed is ever 
above
'secret' classification and that he couldn't have gotten his hands on it 
without
a great deal of cooperation, despite the stories of his contacts walking out 
of
high security installations with Lady Gaga CDs packed with info.?




And if you look at what the leaks accomplish, it is always in the interest 
of
the Anglo-American establishment, most notably demonizing Pakistan and 
Iran.? In
the current documents you'll also notice that all the allies of said
establishment come out unscathed.? The recent leaks also go after the State
Department, which could indicate the continuing war the Pentagon is waging
against them for primacy in foreign affairs that started in 2001.? The next
leaks are supposed to concern banking institutions, which could mean the big
boys are going to use the info to knock off competition (if Soros is truly 
one
of the figures behind this, I'd watch to see how heated his fight with the 
Queen
and her pound gets).



Ultimately, it has divided us into two opinions, always the goal, as well as
raise question as to whether governments should take over the internet.? And 
if
it is an intel operation, it is of such complexity that I'm never going to 
fully
understand it or be able to explain it.? Just remember it is rare that 
anything
of this magnitude happens that isn't allowed to happen . . . . unless 
Assange is
more bulletproof than Kennedy.?




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brGAgrxscOg


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From: folk.devil at hotmail.com

To: gathering at misera.net

Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 08:09:42 -0800

Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) An Absolute Joke


I am not sure how Assange could be being used as some form of Machiavellian
device. If that is your inference Matt?

?

?
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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 19:26:51 -0800

From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com

To: gathering at misera.net

Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) An Absolute Joke


I haven't heard that one. Do continue..

(did he also have russian

?operatives working beneath him?)

http://ll-media.tmz.com/2010/10/20/101710-maxin-anna-chapman.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/08/27/article-1306739-0AF0F455000005DC-986_468x697.jpg


?


?


From: Matthew Burke <marsboy1 at msn.com>

http://flowstate.homestead.com/files/spartacus.gif

To: gathering <gathering at misera.net>

Sent: Tue, December 7, 2010 5:55:02 PM

Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) An Absolute Joke

With the circus that went on today, I'm starting to lean heavily in the
direction of some opinions I've heard recently.? To wit: Wikileaks is an
intelligence operation and Assange is either a participant or a patsy.?








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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 17:12:52 -0800

From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com

To: gathering at misera.net

Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) An Absolute Joke


?? Close. What I remember hearing (either in channel 7, or 4) is

that the UFO leaks were to be of USGovt. opinions/findings/etc.,

but not (I don't think) meant to seem J.A. was taking a position

on UFOs n' stuff.

?? What I'm still curious about is who are the Chosen Few, the 100,000

set to release the cyber-Holy-Of-Holies files that could immediately harm

the U.S. Are they innocent computers that have been penetrated, secretly

embedded and programmed ot be hijacked and set loose to spew upon

JA's command, or are the Chosen Few active participants set to come forth

in the greatest

ever "I am Spartacus!!" moment known to Man?
?

Julian Assange v. World: http://www.spittinflicks.com/images/spartacus1.jpg

?

'Enquiring minds want to know..'


From: folk devil <folk.devil at hotmail.com>


To: gathering at misera.net

Sent: Tue, December 7, 2010 12:20:13 PM

Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) An Absolute Joke

Which news channel? That sounds like another possible attempt to discredit 
him,
to me..

?
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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 15:15:59 -0500

To: gathering at misera.net

Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) An Absolute Joke


I heard on the news last night he was going to release documents about UFOs 
and
aliens? Which is going to be a bombshell so they say.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/dec/06/wikileaks-julian-assange-police
Julian Assange, the founder of WikiLeaks, is expected to appear in a UK 
court
today after his lawyers said he would meet police to discuss a European 
arrest
warrant from Sweden relating to alleged sexual assaults."

?

"
?

Do they really think people are that stupid? Well, I guess so.

=


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