[kj] KJ Documentary trailer- Jaz remarks

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Mon Dec 6 17:36:06 EST 2010


I Whole heartily agree Adam, thanks for putting these words together.



Todd



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Subject: [kj] KJ Documentary trailer- Jaz remarks






I went to watch the Doc and it was taken down- my thoughts is his comment on
"suicide bombing" isn't meant in a total literal sense- I've actually
randomly heard a few other (very bright) people say roughly the same thing--


Its not the actual act of a suicide bomber, but the intense conviction they
have that is admirable to some--

There is a saying that goes something like "if you don't stand for something
that worth dying for, then you're not really living a life"-- my thoughts
are if you said "really Jaz- that's pretty extreme, what do you mean by
that"- if he expounded then you would get an answer similar to what I
mentioned.

I feel the same way (about a life of conviction and meaning) but I would
never in a million years use the example of a suicide bomber, cuz of how
despicable it is on so many levels..



As for the "9/11 was an inside job" remark- again, if you said "really Jaz,
really?...., do you care to explain why you feel this way" you would find he
would give you an educated answer that was based on actually looking into
the matter- whether you care to agree or not.

In fact if everyone pushed cognitive dissonance aside and open mindedly took
1/2 to an hour of their time to look into all the aspects of the issue, then
you would probably see why some feel that way- and at the least you probably
wouldn't think the "9/11 truthers" are just blowing hot air- whether you
would totally agree with them or not you would see how they base their
conclusions.



Anyone I have ever known who open mindedly looked into the matter, never
came out of it with the same initial thoughts- and im talking about some
people who never even entertained "conspiracy" notions in the past.



As they say "condemnation without investigation, is the height of
ignorance"...



Same for people (seems it comes up quite a bit) in high circles who blurt
out "zionists run america" or something as such--

Do you think theyre coming from the mindset of some racist deep southerner
and his disdain for "nig*ers" ? well no and if you asked them to expound
they would give you a list of reasons and whole explanation why-- do you
think they would really go out on a limb and saying as such if they didn't
have experience with it or did their due diligence?

to just quicky throw a blanket "anti Semitic" or "conspiracy theorist" tag
on someone to me is pretty cheap and an easy mental diversion tactic.



though I wouldn't go throwing out "9/11 is an inside job" or topics as such
(which seems a bit reckless to me) as randomly as jaz without being able to
give full explanation, I do know where he (and others) are coming from and
respect the fact that they care enough to look deeper into the subject
matter...

Whether their conclusions totally match up with mine or not...



Adam

























In a message dated 12/5/2010 6:58:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
jpwhkj at aol.com writes:

"Live at the Forum 2008", where Jaz mentions that he agrees with someone
mentioning " That 9/11 was an inside job". I'm sorry, but that is pretty
heartless and despicable to say. What Bullshit statement!! The other
statement, "I want to be a suicide bomber", WTF insane prospect...


"Yeah, the whole "I want to be a suicide bomber" thing is pretty
ridiculous. If I'm not mistaken, he also exclaims same during the live
version of "Bloodsport" on XXV LET US PREY. Strikes me that he just
thought it sounded provocative, so he bandied it about for a while.
Seems a bit counter-intuitive to Jaz's other statements regarding the
sanctity of life.

if he DOES genuinely believe it (i.e. condone suicide bombing), I'd be
surprised.



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