[kj] OT: The Damned (was: Top 50 of 2000-2010)

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Fri Apr 23 16:55:52 EDT 2010



Rob,

You're not an oik.

You're a yokel.

Jamie






-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Moss <rob.moss at gmx.com>
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Sent: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 13:20
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: The Damned (was: Top 50 of 2000-2010)


We did a gig with him.
We both played to about 20 people!
His guitar was incrediblky loud and he's as deaf as a post (so the otehr
uitarist said).
a real gent I found. As was Captain Sensible when we played with the Damned.
Vanian and Patricia Morrison were arrogant fucks though who looked down their
oses at us oiks!

----- Original Message -----
From: Alexander Smith
Sent: 04/23/10 12:06 PM
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Subject: Re: [kj] OT: The Damned (was: Top 50 of 2000-2010)

peaking of ol' Brian James....
http://www.flickr.com/photos/vassifer/3857039199/sizes/o/in/set-72157622145052490/
Here's me (I'm the gobsmacked schmuck in the blue shirt) sitting with
ock photog Bob Gruen, once-stabbed Blondie roadie Michael Sticca,
rian James and "Brother" Wayne Kramer. Met these gents at the same
arty wherein I first met Raven in 2000. I approached their table
where they were all hanging out) and asked if I could take their
icture. They said, "Sure, but only if you get in it with us," which I
hought was cool.
Kramer and James were working on the Mad for the Racket project at the
ime (which was also going to include Stewart Copeland and Raven, I
elieve, but was kinda dead-on-arrival upon release).
Alex in NYC


n Apr 23, 2010, at 6:50 AM, gingoblin at easynet.co.uk wrote:

>

At 11:25 22/04/2010 -0500, Oliver wrote:



> 3. 1978 _Music for Pleasure_ LP, amazing punk rock album/document,

> yet also wholly written by Bryan James except Dave Vanian gets a

> "co-writing" song crdit for the song "Your ys" off said LP. At this

> point most members of The Damned wantd to write their own songs and

> were sick of James. They broke up and "disowned" this LP thanks to

> James's dictatorial control.



I think they disowned the LP because they genuinely didn't like it,
not because of Brian James. It was the common story of having ages
to write the first LP, with the second one being a rush and
therefore lacking in quality. Brian wasn't overly keen on the others
writing, which perhaps wasn't a problem with the first, but his
songs just weren't up to standard on the second (in the band's
opinion... and mine actually!). Also, wanting Syd Barrett to produce
it ended up with Nick Mason actually doing it, which really wasn't
what they were looking for. Then add in the personal problems and it
was a pretty unhappy time for the Damned. The songs aren't that
great, the production isn't what they wanted, and the band was
falling apart anyway. I can see why it all adds up to them wanting
nothing to do with this LP. But yeah, some people really like it!
But not Vanian, Sensible or Scabies!

Dave in Edinburgh


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