[kj] OT: Obama and Fox

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Thu Oct 22 23:22:59 EDT 2009


Yeah, but local news in Burlington is real different from news in less
progressive towns, 90% of small town America.



Burlington is like Amsterdam compared to most towns that size



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nicholas fitzpatrick wrote:



This is the first time in ten years I've created a Gathering thread that's

had more than three responses.



I was on holiday in the US on election night, which was cool, staying in a

hotel in Burlington, Vermont. I was suprised in a positive way by the TV

news in the US. I had been led to believe that US news is very parochial -

what with only 15 Americans holding passports and 55% of them thinking China


is a small district of Manhattan (joke guys, ok, just a joke) -but I thought


the news reporting was as good as we get in the UK. There seemed to be a lot


of international coverage, and in terms of Iraq/Afghanastan some coverage

was given to non-US troops. Probably this should't be surprising but it was.



I binged on a lot of US TV. If anything annoyed me about it, it was that in

almost every programme there seemed to be members of the public standing

around shouting "boo-ya" a lot and waving at the cameras.



IN terms of Fox being allegedly anti-Obama, what about comdians that appear

on the likes of chat shows, like SNL (though I don't know if that's Fox).

Bush gave them loads of material, but I imagine these comedians are pretty

liberal East/West coasters who would back Obama. Do they rip the shit out of


Obama too, or have they had to find other material?



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I think the post-election afterglow is starting to wear off and a few

comedians and network comedy shows like Saturday Night Live are taking

tentative, soft jabs at Obama but nothing like what any other President in

recent memory (not just Bush jr) has endured. I think there's a healthy

amount of anti-discrimination at work - no tv show or celebrity wants to

really mock the President for "comedic value" and risk being labeled racist.


The level of political correctness prevalent in our society basically

shields most minorities from ridicule. I believe people are starting to

realize Obama wasn't and really can't be the savior many on the Left thought


he'd be and are growing impatient with the slow pace he's moving on key

issues. Unemployment is still a major problem nationwide, the twin wars

seem to be on autopilot and the gap between the wealthy and the middle class


is dramatically wider while the gap between the middle class and truly poor

is shrinking.



IMO, the media and most of the American people have taken a complete 180%

turn from the past 8 years of viciously and openly loathing and attacking

the previous administration to fawning blind admiration for the current one.


There is no middle ground anymore.



T.B.



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