[kj] OT: chik chik BOOM!

folk devil folk.devil at hotmail.com
Fri May 22 14:48:13 EDT 2009



As i have lived out of the UK for so long now, truthfully, from an outside view it appears that some things are regressing. E.g. The BNP with a EU parliament seat? Christ, it even looks like the Tories are back. Is there any other party in with a chance? You're also touching that age old problem of Nationalism, where not everyone fits comfortably in its very definitive bracket.

Citizenship is taught alongside history now, does it really negate prejudice, or marginalise people more?



Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 19:36:14 +0100
From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: chik chik BOOM!




That's fair comment, but I think things have changed so much since he said that, that the common
bloke on the street wouldn't describe your average middle eastern dude as weak or feminised. In
reality, I think that describes the West pretty well. I think KJ have been saying that for years.

I hold my hands up to Islamic prejudice, fine, I couldn't give a fuck, though I'd widen the scope to
all religions. That HOWEVER does not mean these religions don't interest me - truth is they
fascinate me. But I wouldn't like to see Islam become as embedded in UK culture as, spit spit,
Christianity. I see religion as regression.

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of folk devil
Sent: 22 May 2009 19:10
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: chik chik BOOM!

I think people like yourself are still a minority. Although a lot of Said's work is now dated.
We still have a US president describing the States as the 'Moral leader of the World'.
Islamic prejudice is fervent, too.



Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 19:06:50 +0100
From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: chik chik BOOM!




"Said concludes that Western writings about the Orient depict it as an irrational, weak, feminised "Other", contrasted with the rational, strong, masculine West"

You know, I don't think that's the case now, but things have changed, ie, plebs such as I are now more educated than ever.

-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of folk devil
Sent: 22 May 2009 18:56
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: chik chik BOOM!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Said



From: folk.devil at hotmail.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 10:55:03 -0700
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: chik chik BOOM!



originally 'westernised oriental gentleman'..from the boxer days.
later it moved on to gollywogs etc..derogatory for a black person.



Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 10:52:05 -0700
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: chik chik BOOM!






So what exactly is a "wog"? She said it like it's a racial slur but
the internetss are giving me different answers.



... ... ... ... ... ...

[looking at the current state of things..]

'Save me...
save me from Tomorrow..
I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'







From: Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
To: gathering at misera.net
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 12:18:40 AM
Subject: [kj] OT: chik chik BOOM!

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/815911/shooting-witness-becomes-internet-celebrity

This has huge repeat play value.

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