[kj] Prong go disco / KJ @ ATP review
Brendan
bq at soundgardener.co.nz
Thu May 21 22:11:20 EDT 2009
He's a bit of an enigma...sung gospel stuff early on, then was associated
with Glenn Antichrist Danzig. Suppose he saw the light, so to speak ;)
Musically - I listen to him, like it, and couldn't really tell you why
half the time. But that cover of Rusty Cage...so well done.
> Â Â I Just heard Cash's Rusty Cage and it is good, too. It seems that
> CashÂ
> just projects a general, overall sense of superior musicianship (for some
> reason
> he makes me recall older Eddie Arnold records my dad used to play when
> I was a smaller version of me). Shame I never tuned in to him earlier.Â
>
> In case others want to see/hear these versions...
>
> Cash's Rusty Cage http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGBZf5oKspk ,
> and, of course, one of
> the best songs I've ever
> heard ('cept for the slower ending)
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ChT3AJAwGo [play very loud]
>
> Â
> ... ... ... ... ... ...
>
> [looking at the current state of things..]
> Â
> 'Save me...
>  save me from Tomorrow..
> Â Â Â I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'Â Â
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
> <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 6:15:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [kj] Prong go disco / KJ @ ATP review
>
> I heard Cash's version first and I prefer but I suffer from bias cos
> that's the first version I heard...I gotta say though, when I listened to
> NIN's one I was totally underwhelmed. Cash really owned it. He did similar
> with Soundgarden's Rusty Cage, although you'd never say he did it
> better...Rusty Cage is a brilliant track, awesome tempo change etc. He
> threw in a slow-burn slide guitar bit though that totally fucking rules.
> Totally made it his own, and it works for him perfectly.
>
>>> it's hard to say, you always have 'peak experience' bias from the first
>>> version
>>
>>
>>
>> Gaaah, i wrote that all wrong, a correction is in order. I meant to say
>> I
>> just recently
>> heard "Hurt" as sung by Johnny Cash for the 1st time ever, otherwise,
>> i'd
>> heardÂÂ
>> the song itself years back when I 1st got "Downward
>> Spiral." MyBad.
>>
>>  It's got me tinking how many other songs out there are better sung
>> by
>> someone
>> else other than the original singer/group.
>>
>>
>>
>> ... ... ... ... ... ...
>>
>> [looking at the current state of things..]
>> ÂÂ
>> 'Save me...
>>  save me from Tomorrow..
>>    I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...' ÂÂ
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
>> <gathering at misera.net>
>> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 5:48:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: [kj] Prong go disco / KJ @ ATP review
>>
>> I agree re Hurt, but it's hard to say, you always have 'peak experience'
>> bias from the first version of a song you like, and if you get the
>> chronology wrong it can kind of stuff up the proportion of appreciation
>> the original and coverer gets...I'm rambling.
>>
>>>> I have always TRIED to like NIN
>>>
>>> Same here...
>>>
>>>
>>>> but never found a reason to,ÂÂÂ
>>>
>>> ..same here. After "Pretty Hate Machine" and "The Downward
>>> Spiral" i
>>> don't
>>> think there was ever a real reason to like NIN much.
>>>
>>> btw, I just heard "Hurt" for the 1st (or at most, the 2nd) time ever,
>>> as
>>> sung by Johnny Cash... let's
>>> just say it should've been Johnny's - and only Johnny's - song all
>>> along,
>>> from the very beginning.
>>>
>>> I never got into Johnny's music, but I can tell he is a million times
>>> better and 'deeper' singer than Reznor
>>> ever will be. He made NINny's version soond like shit in
>>> comparison.
>>> Same
>>> for when I saw NIN open for
>>> David Bowie in '96 when Bowie and Trent shared the stage for the last
>>> note
>>> of the last song of NIN's set - which may have been "Hurt" also, IIRC.
>>>
>>>
>>> ÂÂÂ
>>> ... ... ... ... ... ...
>>>
>>> [looking at the current state of things..]
>>> ÂÂÂ
>>> 'Save me...
>>>  save me from Tomorrow..
>>>    I don't want to sail in this Ship Of
>>> Fools...' ÂÂÂ
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
>>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
>>> <gathering at misera.net>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 8:56:00 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [kj] Prong go disco / KJ @ ATP review
>>>
>>> Nah it was cos he didn't acknowledge the crowd at all until he said
>>> that
>>> it was the last time they'd be playing NZ...no 'thanks for coming &
>>> supporting us' or anything...he was boo''d for that, it was quite a
>>> $hit
>>> vibe actually. Not the worst transgression in the world, he just came
>>> across like a dick the way he did it. Then stormed off with no encore.
>>> Other than that I have always TRIED to like NIN but never found a
>>> reason
>>> to, after really trying hard, and forking out for 2 tix to see that...I
>>> was pretty slutted. So it's partly my fault, setting myself up to fail,
>>> going out on a limb trying to like something that I honestly feel is
>>> pretty luke warm...NIN's lyrics I find pretty embarassing. And Trentnor
>>> really just rubs me up the wrong way...not as bad as Kiedis or anything
>>> but on that scale. It's probably quite irrational to be honest. Just
>>> how
>>> he claims being responsible for the 90s alt thing and all that...ugh. I
>>> remember watching Perfect Drug on tell back in the day, wondering what
>>> everyone was so interested in, it bored me silly.
>>>
>>> I can't actually fault him for taking the pi$$ outta Cornell though,
>>> seeing as I feel the same.
>>>
>>> Oh and I was talkin about the reviewer not knowing anything in my
>>> mini-rant there, not Ade (think it was his post I was replying to...?)
>>>
>>>> Hey Brendan
>>>> ÂÂÂÂ
>>>> Why the hate-on for Reznor? I remember you posted some rant after a
>>>> concert a while back ;) - Is it cos he didn't do an encore?
>>>> ÂÂÂÂ
>>>> Geoff
>>>>
>>>> --- On Wed, 20/5/09, Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] Prong go disco / KJ @ ATP review
>>>> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'"
>>>> <gathering at misera.net>
>>>> Received: Wednesday, 20 May, 2009, 11:39 PM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mentioning Trent Dickface Reznor in the same breath as Killing Joke
>>>> illuminates how little you know about anything. Sorry, sad but true.
>>>> ÂÂÂÂ
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
>>>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
>>>> On Behalf Of ade
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 20 May 2009 8:30 a.m.
>>>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] Prong go disco / KJ @ ATP review
>>>> ÂÂÂÂ
>>>>
>>>> Respect to him !!!
>>>>
>>>> ÂÂÂÂ
>>>>
>>>> Looky here for a review from KJ @ ATP:
>>>> http://drownedinsound.com/in_depth/4136820
>>>>
>>>> ÂÂÂÂ
>>>>
>>>> "If you were to ask any Killing Joke fan in the room for the best
>>>> couplet
>>>> to start the set, most wouldn’t
>>>> disagree with
>>>> â€ËÃ
“Requiem’
>>>> and
>>>> â€ËÃ
“Wardance’.
>>>> Jaz Coleman meanwhile
>>>> strikes a menacing pose,
>>>> like a
>>>> mystical uncle with the shared genetics of Trent Reznor and Alice
>>>> Cooper.
>>>> Geordie’s guitar sounds are
>>>> simply euphoric, an
>>>> original
>>>> underrated
>>>> master whose inspiration holds no boundaries, while the tribal rhythms
>>>> of
>>>> Paul Ferguson coupled with
>>>> Youth’s elegant dubbed-up
>>>> basslines
>>>> are a joy
>>>> to behold, none more so than on â€ËÃ
“Turn
>>>> To
>>>> Red’ or
>>>> â€ËÃ
“Psyche’s
>>>> frenzied assault which causes the Centre
>>>> Stage’s
>>>> dancefloor to
>>>> erupt as
>>>> one sweaty mass. Simply awesome, from start to finish."
>>>>
>>>> ÂÂÂÂ
>>>>
>>>> Sounds like they did a good job ;)
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
>>>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On
>>>> Behalf Of folk devil
>>>> Sent: 19 May 2009 23:24
>>>> To: gathering at misera.net
>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] Prong go disco
>>>> I understand Jaz is also a fan of Boney M and Abba.
>>>> A friend witnessed him dancing and singing along to dancing
>>>> queen ;)
>>>> ÂÂÂÂ
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 23:22:11 +0100
>>>> From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk
>>>> To: gathering at misera.net
>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] Prong go disco
>>>>
>>>> There were a couple of blokes in there - Nile Rodgers is a legendary
>>>> guitarist these days. Bit of a rhythm monster!
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
>>>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On
>>>> Behalf Of melinda grant
>>>> Sent: 19 May 2009 23:14
>>>> To: gathering at misera.net
>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] Prong go disco
>>>> ahhh but let us remember that killing joke were influenced by 1970s
>>>> disco
>>>> all girl band-chic --back in 78/79 yes,yes awful i
>>>> was never
>>>> into
>>>> chic but they certainly helped to shaped the rytham
>>>> section of
>>>> k.j ;)
>>>> ÂÂÂÂ
>>>> milindafgrant ps prong go disco-oh dear!
>>>> ÂÂÂÂ
>>>>
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