[kj] Play dead

[Stephen Lawrence]

no they are clever slavery constructs
 


Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 17:16:11 +0100
From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead




Our shitstems are simply theories.

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of folk devil
Sent: 04 May 2009 16:34
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead

Most of our 'realities' are social and cultural constructions. A good contemporary example would be 'the West' v. Islam. The greatest influence on a society's ID would be its language. If you lose the language, you lose the culture. Everyone speak English, now!
There used to be some psychological theory (Laing) who actually saw Psychosis as more of a break from these constru(i)ctions, in some cases.
 


From: stephen.l at live.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 10:53:36 +0000
Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead



well ade there are the spiritually alive and the beautiful dead 
 


Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 11:14:33 +0100
From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead








It was indeed an eye-opener, so few of us consider stuff like "why should I go along with this game"
& so on. It can seem like 'self realisation 101' to the open eyes on this list, but for the masses, it has
value as a thought provoker - just think how many have seen that film & considered reality - that's no
bad thing at all !

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn
Sent: 04 May 2009 06:08
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead



The Matrix series introduced some concepts to non-readers that they mightn’t otherwise come across, such as solipsism, questioning the nature of ‘the real world’ etc. I think most people find the concept of questioning the solidity or real nature of the physical world ridiculous, other than regurgitated ideas of heaven and hell. I remember my mate’s wife’s reaction to watching Maybe Logic (Robert Anton Wilson doco) – she couldn’t come close to getting her head around what he was getting at so called it total rubbish. The idea of questioning the nature of reality / truth / gravity itself etc was impossible for her to do…totally trapped in The Matrix. Everything is solid, black and white, good and bad etc. So the first movie I think actually elevated people’s consciousness a little, or a certain demographic at least.
 
It also used the general artwork & the physics of fight scenes really well to flesh out the guts of the multi-dimensional reality it was trying to depict. But after that is was all style over substance, there was absolutely no need to delve any further into story in order to earn money, it was surefire paydirt to get the same actors and team back, throw shitloads of money at ridiculous disjointed action CGI and watch the money roll back in. And it showed, the second two movies detracted from the first, in a successively worse manner. I thought the 3rd might be some kind of redemption, a decent book-end to the series, but it just got worse.
 
That chick was sorta almost pretty hot, in an angular, manly kind of way. Laurence Fishbourne was great as always. Keanu was passably okay-ish for the role, I think I’d have found someone like Ed Norton or Christian Bale preferable. Soundtrack was pretty good. Compares very favourably with shit like the new Star Wars movies. I’d watch the first movie again, but not sure about the other two.
 






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