[kj] Play dead

[Karen Weil]

No, Darren: It's more like "Whoooooaaaaaaaa..." If you're going to do Keanu, attention must be paid. ; ) 

k.w.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Darren A. Peace 
  To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)' 
  Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 4:56 AM
  Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead


  I make no apologies for being an irredeemable cynic about such things.

   

  The huge majority of people who saw the Mattress came out thinking "Dunno what the fuck that was all about, but those plastic trousers were awesome, dude. And guns. And special effects. And there's a computer game!" Whoah indeed.

   

  Yes, I'd think it a good thing if it caused even a few people to consider their place in the world a little more thoughtfully, but the metaphor is surely juvenile, internally inconsistent and facile. And anyone who can identify with Canoe should choose a better role model.

   

  Bah.

   

  Darren

  Hungerford, UK

   

  From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of ade
  Sent: 04 May 2009 11:15
  To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
  Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead

   

  It was indeed an eye-opener, so few of us consider stuff like "why should I go along with this game"

  & so on. It can seem like 'self realisation 101' to the open eyes on this list, but for the masses, it has

  value as a thought provoker - just think how many have seen that film & considered reality - that's no

  bad thing at all !

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    From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn
    Sent: 04 May 2009 06:08
    To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
    Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead

    The Matrix series introduced some concepts to non-readers that they mightn't otherwise come across, such as solipsism, questioning the nature of 'the real world' etc. I think most people find the concept of questioning the solidity or real nature of the physical world ridiculous, other than regurgitated ideas of heaven and hell. I remember my mate's wife's reaction to watching Maybe Logic (Robert Anton Wilson doco) - she couldn't come close to getting her head around what he was getting at so called it total rubbish. The idea of questioning the nature of reality / truth / gravity itself etc was impossible for her to do.totally trapped in The Matrix. Everything is solid, black and white, good and bad etc. So the first movie I think actually elevated people's consciousness a little, or a certain demographic at least.

     

    It also used the general artwork & the physics of fight scenes really well to flesh out the guts of the multi-dimensional reality it was trying to depict. But after that is was all style over substance, there was absolutely no need to delve any further into story in order to earn money, it was surefire paydirt to get the same actors and team back, throw shitloads of money at ridiculous disjointed action CGI and watch the money roll back in. And it showed, the second two movies detracted from the first, in a successively worse manner. I thought the 3rd might be some kind of redemption, a decent book-end to the series, but it just got worse.

     

    That chick was sorta almost pretty hot, in an angular, manly kind of way. Laurence Fishbourne was great as always. Keanu was passably okay-ish for the role, I think I'd have found someone like Ed Norton or Christian Bale preferable. Soundtrack was pretty good. Compares very favourably with shit like the new Star Wars movies. I'd watch the first movie again, but not sure about the other two.

     


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    From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1
    Sent: Monday, 4 May 2009 09:33
    To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
    Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead

     

    I guess no one enjoyed it like I did... 8)  8D

     

     

    ...and who hasn't felt like Neo when you've stepped into a greater level of awareness looking back in to the 

    bubble of others' more limited grasp of "reality," - sans the super powers.... I only hope to never need "the 

    Blue Pill" and may not everything end up tasting "like chicken" one day.  And, of coourrse, Trinity was f#$*%in' 

    hot the whole time.

     

    The 1st was the best (saw it on dvd right around the time I also saw PI so it was a good time all'round),

    the 2nd was a good sequel, but deh 3rd (pron'oonced 'turd') should've been cut down to 1/2-1/3 duration 

    and just tagged on to the backend of the 2nd for completion's sake.

     

    That KJ progeny Juno Reactor was involved in spearheading that soundtrack (along with some RATM tunes) 

    was pleasure for my ears throughout.

     

    the end

     

     

    ... ... ... ... ... ... 


    [looking at the current state of things..]

     

    'Save me...

      save me from Tomorrow..

        I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'   

     

     

     


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    From: Darren A. Peace <dpeace at bigfoot.com>
    To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
    Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2009 8:53:14 AM
    Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead

    The Matrices are clearly one of the biggest steaming piles of sub-Castaneda donkey manure EVER MADE.

     

    "Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing" doesn't begin to address the contempt I feel for this over-plotted, over-styled, over-Canoed feculence. You need to take a break from the films every ten minutes or so for a palate-cleansing infusion of Proust.

     

    Bullet time indeed. It's this sort of filmic tripe that makes me reach for the hemlock, and something made before 1950.

     

    And I had the fucking 10-DVD boxed set I had to review, meaning there are 238974502938745602987365235 hours of my life I will never get back. I will ceremonially smash it with hammers when I can bear to touch it again. 

     

    Darren

    Hungerford, UK

     

    From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn
    Sent: 03 May 2009 14:45
    To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
    Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead

     

    I still haven't figured out what the fuck that movie series was trying to get at with The Architect.load of waffle if you ask me.

     


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    From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1
    Sent: Sunday, 3 May 2009 06:28
    To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
    Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead

     

    > Go into your BIOS and kill it there man.

     

    Doesn't trying to delete a stubborn, son-a-bitch program sometimes seem 

    like you really are dealing with a "successively harder end-of-level boss"? 

    At one point I'm thinking 

    I'll have to meet this guy: http://www.traditioninaction.org/movies/movieimages/007_j_architect.jpg 

    (Architect of the Matrix) before I'll ever get a chance to delete a prog.

     


     

    ... ... ... ... ... ... 


    [looking at the current state of things..]

     

    'Save me...

      save me from Tomorrow..

        I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'   

     

     

     


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    From: Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
    To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
    Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 10:45:49 AM
    Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead

    Go into your BIOS and kill it there man.

     


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    From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of folk devil
    Sent: Saturday, 2 May 2009 01:24
    To: gathering at misera.net
    Subject: Re: [kj] Play dead

     

    iTunes...a totally invasive piece of annoyance! That little ficker tried taking over every sound device on my pc. It is now gone!
    Windows, still insists on using its own primary s/c after installing the delta 1010, with the original s/c no longer on the drive. Reformatted and all :[
    Bloody annoying at the beginning of each recording session.
     


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