[kj] dilemma

Jerry Butson jerry at fleamusic.com
Fri Mar 20 11:46:43 EDT 2009


Mistakes? I can spot at least two in your post right there...re-read and
tell me if you see them

2009/3/20 fluke fluke <fluke1 at live.co.uk>


>

> Are you talking about the same Paul Rangecroft that corrected three of your

> mistakes that you made in the linear notes of that complication album ?

> Have they asked you to write any more linear notes ?

> Thought not.

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> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 12:03:45 +0000

> From: jerry at fleamusic.com

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] dilemma

>

> Is this the ghost of Graeme Rowland being fellated by the ghost of Paul

> Rangecroft?

>

> 2009/3/20 fluke fluke <fluke1 at live.co.uk>

>

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>

> A dilemma is :

>

> ·*It is from a Greek prefix meaning "two," the word should be used only

> when exactly two choices are involved. *

> **

>

> But he has three choices . Either go to see the Wailers, go to see P.J.

> or to enroll in English classes . A dilemma is two choices...he has three

> choices . It isn't a dilemma

>

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> From: dpeace at bigfoot.com

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:39:29 +0000

> Subject: Re: [kj] dilemma

>

> Actually, a dilemma is precisely what he has.

>

> *dilemma*

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> One entry found.

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> Main Entry:

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> *di·lem·ma* *[image: Listen to the pronunciation of dilemma]*<http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20javascript:popWin('/cgi-bin/audio.pl?dilemm01.wav=dilemma')>

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> Pronunciation:

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> \də-ˈle-mə *also* dī-\

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> Function:

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> *noun*

>

> Etymology:

>

> Late Latin, from Late Greek *dilēmmat-, dilēmma,* probably back-formation

> from Greek *dilēmmatos* involving two assumptions, from *di-* + *lēmmat-,

> lēmma* assumption — more at *lemma*<http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/lemma>

>

> Date:

>

> 1523

>

> *1**:* an argument presenting two or more equally conclusive alternatives

> against an opponent*2 a**:* a usually undesirable or unpleasant choice

> <faces this *dilemma*: raise interest rates and slow the economy or lower

> them and risk serious inflation> *b**:* a situation involving such a

> choice <here am I brought to a very pretty *dilemma*; I must commit murder

> or commit matrimony — George Farquhar> ; *broadly* *:* *predicament*<http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/predicament><lords and bailiffs were in a terrible

> *dilemma* — G. M. Trevelyan>*3 a**:* a problem involving a difficult

> choice <the *dilemma* of “liberty versus order” — J. M. Burns> *b**:* a

> difficult or persistent problem <unemployment…the great central *dilemma*of our advancing technology — August Heckscher>

>

> — *dil·em·mat·ic* *[image: Listen to the pronunciation of dilemmatic]*<http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20javascript:popWin('/cgi-bin/audio.pl?dilemm02.wav=dilemmatic')>

> \ˌdi-lə-ˈma-tik *also* -ˌdī-\ *adjective*

>

> *usage* Although some commentators insist that *dilemma* be restricted to

> instances in which the alternatives to be chosen are equally unsatisfactory,

> their concern is misplaced; the unsatisfactoriness of the options is usually

> a matter of how the author presents them. What is distressing or painful

> about a dilemma is having to make a choice one does not want to make. The

> use of such adjectives as *terrible, painful,* and *irreconcilable*suggests that

> *dilemma* is losing some of its unpleasant force. There also seems to be a

> tendency especially in sense 3b toward applying the word to less weighty

> problems <solved their goaltending *dilemma* — Pat Calabria>.

>

> (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dilemma)

>

> I refer you to sense 3b and the usage reference.

>

> I’m not aware of any precise antonym for “dilemma”, since there can be no

> decision if two alternatives can be managed neatly; the closest would be

> something like “solution”, I suppose.

>

> In any case, etymological pedantry is reductive and vexatious; as the

> purpose of language is to communicate, so long as its usage communicates to

> a reasonable person the intended meaning, its purpose has been served.

>

> And egregious used to mean distinguished; language and word meaning is a

> constantly shifting entity.

>

> I’m not entirely innocent of such things myself, however: I still bristle

> when I hear conTROVersy, as it’s clearly CONTroversy. And mischEVIous, as

> opposed to misCHIVus, makes me froth slightly.

>

> Darren

> Hungerford, UK

>

> *From:* gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

> *On Behalf Of *fluke fluke

> *Sent:* 20 March 2009 01:48

> *To:* gathering at misera.net

> *Subject:* Re: [kj] dilemma

>

>

>

> He doesn't have a dilemma though does he . I don't know what he has, but it

> certainly isn't a dilemma . He has the opposite of a dilemma, what ever that

> is .

> What is the opposite of a dilemma ?

>

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> From: dpeace at bigfoot.com

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 01:32:50 +0000

> Subject: Re: [kj] dilemma

> Oh Petey.

>

> Please stop being a cunt.

>

> Darren

> Hungerford, UK

>

> *From:* gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

> *On Behalf Of *fluke fluke

> *Sent:* 20 March 2009 01:28

> *To:* gathering at misera.net

> *Subject:* [kj] dilemma

>

>

>

>

> Well Dear boy.

> I suggest that you don't go to either concert and enroll yourself in an

> English language class instead and there you can learn the meaning of the

> word "dilemma".

> A dilemma is*: **A situation that requires a choice between options

> that are or seem equally unfavorable .* As both of your options are

> favorable, then Dilemma is the incorrect word to use in this instance

>

>

> P.S. Don't waste your time trying to find any spelling errors in my

> post, because there aren't any .(And I ve deliberately avoided the use of

> any difficult apostrophe's)

>

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>

> *Mike Cooper* mike at coopersurf.fsnet.co.uk

> <gathering at misera.net?Subject=Re:+[kj]+dilemma&In-Reply-To=%3C005401c9a03d$8b3ade30$a1b09a90$@fsnet.co.uk%3E>

> *Sun Mar 8 18:30:53 EDT 2009*

>

>

> Alright fellow jokers toss the coin time. Just realised that two gigs I

> would otherwise go to are happening on the same night! I hate that!!!

>

>

>

> PJ Harvey and John Parish play Brum Town Hall on the same night that the

> Wailers play the Exodus album in its entirety at Brum Academy Loads of

> friends are going to the latter but I am really into the idea of seeing the

>

> PJ.

>

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