[kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

[The Exorcist]

It is? Boy am I outa touch if it is.
Gonna need something like an official Peter West radar.

At 12:11 PM 3/19/2009, ade wrote:

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>Dude, it's just Pete West. We can't really expect any better from him!

>-----Original Message-----

>From: gathering-bounces at misera.net 

>[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of The Exorcist

>Sent: 19 March 2009 15:23

>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>

>I am damn proud to say that I am acquainted with 

>Brendan though we disagree on just about everything.

>

>Over the years on "The Gathering" he has been 

>one of the most consistent, active, and open contributor to this list.

>

>If I would go through the past Email's and copy 

>his statements here you'd be amazed by his insight and witticisms.

>I think I'd even be so bold as to say he is 

>probably the wittiest Gatherer on the list and has a  way with words that I

>only wish I had. (you can spot them by all my lengthy and wordy responses)

>

>Why you had to point out his name is beyond my 

>scope nor is it beneficial to any sort of discussion. If you have

>an issue, state it. The last line added nothing 

>other than just trashing someone for stating something you find

>wrong/silly/stupid/whatever.

>

>If you would have left that out Brendan's name, 

>he would just as much have responded and try to explain his statement.

>I assure you.

>

>Have a good day Stephen.

>

>At 06:37 AM 3/19/2009, Stephen Lawrence wrote:

>>like the fact that you mentioned the movie 

>>witness there is proof that living by bible 

>>teaching works and before people on here bleat 

>>about no car or i-pods it's a funny thing that 

>>humans don't miss what they never had the human 

>>spirit can transcend the aquisition of material 

>>things MINOG keep the debate going guys a lot 

>>of you have risen in my estimation except brendan lol

>>

>>

>>

>>----------

>>From: gregslawson at msn.com

>>To: gathering at misera.net

>>Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 10:06:28 -0400

>>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>>

>>Why wouldn't they be able to? (See the movie 

>>"Witness" if you really think people can't 

>>cooperate). You always get a few who don't fit 

>>in with anyone else, but as a comrade once said 

>>"for the people who want to live in the woods 

>>all by themselves, we can figure out something for them too".

>>

>>

>>----------

>>Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 09:53:00 -0400

>>From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com

>>To: gathering at misera.net

>>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>>

>>And what if one can't work cooperatively?

>>

>>At 09:54 PM 3/17/2009, GREG SLAWSON wrote:

>>I agree Brenden, and for 2 reasons:

>>1. Humans have thing called brains and can 

>>control their own behavior to an extent and

>>2. Working cooperatively is the best way to go!

>>Greg

>>

>>

>>----------

>>From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz

>>To: gathering at misera.net

>>Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:44:44 +1100

>>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>>

>>I read the other day that just over 50% of 

>>Americans donate time to volunteer causes, an 

>>average of 4.2 hours a week (sounds a little 

>>high to me but who knows

most countries are 

>>fucked up enough to need all the help they can 

>>get). So the idea that ‘humans are inherently 

>>selfish,’ that the corrupt will always end up 

>>in power

doesn’t hold any water for me. In fact 

>>no other species really comes close to us in 

>>terms of our altruism and relationships.

>>----------

>>From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ 

>>mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of GREG SLAWSON

>>Sent: Wednesday, 18 March 2009 03:31

>>To: gathering

>>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>>

>>People are always willing to parrot plattitudes 

>>they've learned from anti-communist teachers, 

>>parents, etc., w/o really thinking about them. 

>>But in the US there is a nightly segment on nbc 

>>news about how, in the tough economy, there is 

>>an outpouring of people helping each other, 

>>doing things for free, giving more to the less 

>>fortunate, etc., w/o looking for any praise or 

>>payback. And don't forget that we've never 

>>lived in a time when poeple in power are 

>>prevented form being corrupt, so how can we 

>>know if everyone in power will automatically be corrupt?

>>

>>

>>----------

>>From: folk.devil at hotmail.com

>>To: gathering at misera.net

>>Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:30:35 -0700

>>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>>I find it interesting when some people term 

>>humanity as some form of parasite. Do these 

>>people include themselves in the analogy, or 

>>not? If yes, do they use the idea as some form 

>>of condonation for not giving a sh*t?

>>There is a trend, particularly in industrial 

>>music, to adopt this idea....hell of a way to 

>>perpetuate the inert, or do they feel that they 

>>are in touch with the zeitgeist?

>>

>>

>>

>>----------

>>From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz

>>To: gathering at misera.net

>>Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 01:22:44 +1100

>>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>><http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1655415,00.html>http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1655415,00.html

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>>From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ 

>>mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence

>>Sent: Tuesday, 17 March 2009 22:31

>>To: gathering at misera.net

>>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>>

>>mankind has and continues to rule to the 

>>detriment of others . Any leader showing 

>>compassion is usually assassinated.Power 

>>corrupts and usually those at the top are 

>>moulded and coersed by the host of sychophants 

>>and other manipulators who have thier own 

>>agenda .  No doubt i will be scoffed and jeered 

>>at when i say that mankind is incapable of 

>>looking after himself and the world will only 

>>change for the better when jesus comes to right 

>>the wrongs ...remember how they laughed at the 

>>people attempting to make flight possible ...i rest my case

>>

>>

>>----------

>>From: jelbod at hotmail.co.uk

>>To: gathering at misera.net

>>Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:01:15 +0000

>>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>>

>>  and there has to a way to recall leaders when 

>> they do try to climb above others...

>>

>>

>>  Like a coup or an asassination? I wish i had 

>> your faith, but 99% of the time, those that 

>> rise to the top make damn sure they can stay 

>> there. You can never stop those that wish to 

>> suceed at the expense of others, "feather the 

>> nest and fuck the rest" etc. The concept of a 

>> council like the Roman senate was supposed to 

>> keep things fair and right but ultimately 

>> backhanders, coersion and corruption take 

>> over, all to satisfy the greedy few, and those 

>> Wolves ALWAYS come dressed in Sheeps clothing.

>>

>>Nah, i think i'l just stick to treating people 

>>like i want to be treated myself and hope it eventually rubs off on everyone.

>>

>>

>>Keep dreaming Jel.

>>

>>Over and out

>>

>>Jelski

>>

>>

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>>From: gregslawson at msn.com

>>To: gathering at misera.net

>>Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:36:00 -0400

>>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>>That's the key--how to keep people from being 

>>top of the pile and ripping others off. The 

>>decision-making has to be collectivized and 

>>people have to be accountable (the opposite of 

>>the US bankers) and there has to a way to 

>>recall leaders when they do try to climb above others...

>>

>>

>>----------

>>From: jelbod at hotmail.co.uk

>>To: gathering at misera.net

>>Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:59:07 +0000

>>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>>(w/communist distribution of goods and services according to need).

>>

>>And WHO decides who needs what? There's always 

>>someone at the top of the pile. Great in theory, sadly lacking in practice.

>>

>>  Jelski

>>

>>

>>----------

>>From: gregslawson at msn.com

>>To: gathering at misera.net

>>Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 12:27:30 -0400

>>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>>Funny, the Progressive Labor Party advocates a 

>>future revolutionary society in which we 

>>operate without money! (w/communist 

>>distribution of goods and services according to need). Maybe Jaz will join!

>>

>>

>>----------

>>From: gasw30 at hotmail.com

>>To: gathering at misera.net

>>Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:19:35 +0000

>>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>>Presumably Jaz's talk will centre on his upcoming book:

>>

>> From Jaz's entry on the wikipedia site (I 

>> don't think it's been mentioned here yet, but apols etc).

>>

>>Coleman is writing a book about permaculture, 

>>free energy, freedom and freedom-loving 

>>individuals. The main thesis is on how to 

>>survive without money. The book will be divided 

>>into two parts; one part concentrating on the 

>>music and other on the ideas behind 

>>it.<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaz_Coleman#cite_note-9> 

>><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaz_Coleman#cite_note-9>[10] 

>>The book is planned to be published in 2009. 

>><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaz_Coleman#cite_note-10>[11]

>>----------

>>From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com

>>To: gathering at misera.net

>>Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 19:09:36 +0000

>>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>>but bob we may not be able to contain laughter ;D)))

>>

>>i will ask as well for free,i dont care lol

>>

>>milindafgrant

>>

>>

>>----------

>>From: bbarathy at btinternet.com

>>To: gathering at misera.net

>>Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 18:32:16 +0000

>>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>>If I go up then you're not allowed to snigger 

>>behind me! Or blowpipe me in the back with chewed up paper

>>

>>boBToo

>><http://www.killingjoke.co.uk/>www.killingjoke.co.uk

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>>From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [ 

>>mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Phillipps Marc

>>Sent: 13 March 2009 16:15

>>To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>>Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>> >part of what keeps us all interested.

>>And constantly frustrated

>>I have a crisp £5 note for the first person to 

>>ask him about Gems of Power at the London do :o)

>>Marc.

>>

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