[kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

[sade1]

> said Sen. Dodd, D-CT, “my campaign, and then-Senator Obama’s were getting what can only be termed influence bonuses from the same firm. Naturally, I knew nothing about this, and I’m now seething with anger at the injustice.”


Oh, alright, I did." ~~ "The Doddering Old" Dodd.
 
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090318/pl_politico/30833


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[looking at the current state of things..]
 
'Save me...
  save me from Tomorrow..
    I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'   





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From: The Exorcist <killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 4:37:19 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

I'm sorry, but since you brought this up I had to post this little satiric gem.

(2009-03-17) — As the furor over AIG executive bonuses threatened to bring the current economic recovery to a halt, President Barack Obama and Sen. Chris Dodd today threw fuel on the fire, announcing their “fierce outrage” upon hearing that the insurance giant had given each of their campaigns more than $100,000 last year. 

“While AIG was collapsing, and her executives crawling to DC with hat in hand,” said Sen. Dodd, D-CT, “my campaign, and then-Senator Obama’s were getting what can only be termed influence bonuses from the same firm. Naturally, I knew nothing about this, and I’m now seething with anger at the injustice.”

President Obama and Sen. Dodd were the two largest recipients of campaign contributions from the beleaguered company, and the only politicians to garner six-figure amounts from AIG in 2008 — $103,100 for Sen. Dodd and $100,332 for presidential candidate Obama.

AIG, which has received $170 billion in taxpayer cash from the federal government since September, gave more than $585,000 to Congressional and presidential candidates last year, favoring Democrats 3-to-1 over Republicans.

In unrelated news, Sen. Dodd proposed legislation requiring AIG political gifts to be returned to the U.S. Treasury, “exempting only those campaign contributions made before November 4, 2008.”

The senator’s office immediately issued a statement declaring that Sen. Dodd was not aware that he had proposed such the exemption.


At 05:58 PM 3/18/2009, sade1 wrote:

   Thou arest aware that in the Top 5 list of pols/senators/etc. receiving the 
most brib'*erm* donations from the Finance Industry are Messrs. Carl Levin, 
John Kerry, and... *drum roll* -- wait for it! -- Barack Obama?
 
O how fast, on behalf of the banks!
O how slow they flow, they for(the)sake of the Rabble...
 
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[looking at the current state of things..]
 
'Save me...
  save me from Tomorrow..
    I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'   
 



From: The Exorcist <killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 6:51:34 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

I don't recall Marxism or Communism in it's many forms having much of a grand time at any point.

How about Barack Obama? 
Not in office even 2 months and already damn near broke every promise and lofty ideal he has made 
during his campaign run. Impressive indeed! (I just had to throw that in)

BTW, ever heard of Al Franken?

Ps. I wonder if Professor William K. Black drives a car, lives in a decent house, uses a computer or
has children that use computers, takes transportation, watches TV, have ipods or other mp3 player,
takes medication, or goes out to the movies or a ballgame on occasion. 

At 09:53 PM 3/17/2009, Brendan Quinn wrote:

Haha…it’s certainlly trying times for capitalism.
 
Side note: Does the US left have any figures as repugnant as Bill O’Reilly, Coulter, and Rush Limbaugh? They’re practically intolerable, and why anyone still listens to them in the current climate is beyond me. 
 
 
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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of sade1
Sent: Wednesday, 18 March 2009 06:46
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word
 
For those who, um, dress to the political Left and the people 
who love them, I just saw this in today's news..
 
"It's too bad Marxists don't believe in god. Otherwise they'd be thanking 
him for having sent A.I.G. down to earth to destroy capitalism."
 ~~  Economics and law Professor William K. Black,
 
 
 
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[looking at the current state of things..]
 
'Save me...
  save me from Tomorrow..
    I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'   
 
 
 

From: GREG SLAWSON <gregslawson at msn.com>
To: gathering <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 9:30:59 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

People are always willing to parrot plattitudes they've learned from anti-communist teachers, parents, etc., w/o really thinking about them. But in the US there is a nightly segment on nbc news about how, in the tough economy, there is an outpouring of people helping each other, doing things for free, giving more to the less fortunate, etc., w/o looking for any praise or payback. And don't forget that we've never lived in a time when poeple in power are prevented form being corrupt, so how can we know if everyone in power will automatically be corrupt?
 
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From: folk.devil at hotmail.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:30:35 -0700
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

I find it interesting when some people term humanity as some form of parasite. Do these people include themselves in the analogy, or not? If yes, do they use the idea as some form of condonation for not giving a sh*t?
There is a trend, particularly in industrial music, to adopt this idea....hell of a way to perpetuate the inert, or do they feel that they are in touch with the zeitgeist?

 
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From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 01:22:44 +1100
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1655415,00.html

 
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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Lawrence
Sent: Tuesday, 17 March 2009 22:31
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

 

mankind has and continues to rule to the detriment of others . Any leader showing compassion is usually assassinated.Power corrupts and usually those at the top are moulded and coersed by the host of sychophants and other manipulators who have thier own agenda .  No doubt i will be scoffed and jeered at when i say that mankind is incapable of looking after himself and the world will only change for the better when jesus comes to right the wrongs ...remember how they laughed at the people attempting to make flight possible ...i rest my case 
 
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From: jelbod at hotmail.co.uk
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:01:15 +0000
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word


 and there has to a way to recall leaders when they do try to climb above others...

 
 Like a coup or an asassination? I wish i had your faith, but 99% of the time, those that rise to the top make damn sure they can stay there. You can never stop those that wish to suceed at the expense of others, "feather the nest and fuck the rest" etc. The concept of a council like the Roman senate was supposed to keep things fair and right but ultimately backhanders, coersion and corruption take over, all to satisfy the greedy few, and those Wolves ALWAYS come dressed in Sheeps clothing.
 
Nah, i think i'l just stick to treating people like i want to be treated myself and hope it eventually rubs off on everyone.
 
Keep dreaming Jel.
 
Over and out
 
Jelski
 
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From: gregslawson at msn.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:36:00 -0400
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

That's the key--how to keep people from being top of the pile and ripping others off. The decision-making has to be collectivized and people have to be accountable (the opposite of the US bankers) and there has to a way to recall leaders when they do try to climb above others...
 
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From: jelbod at hotmail.co.uk
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:59:07 +0000
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

(w/communist distribution of goods and services according to need). 
 
And WHO decides who needs what? There's always someone at the top of the pile. Great in theory, sadly lacking in practice.
 
 Jelski
 
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From: gregslawson at msn.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 12:27:30 -0400
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

Funny, the Progressive Labor Party advocates a future revolutionary society in which we operate without money! (w/communist distribution of goods and services according to need). Maybe Jaz will join!
 
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From: gasw30 at hotmail.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:19:35 +0000
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

Presumably Jaz's talk will centre on his upcoming book: 

 

From Jaz's entry on the wikipedia site (I don't think it's been mentioned here yet, but apols etc).

 

Coleman is writing a book about permaculture, free energy, freedom and freedom-loving individuals. The main thesis is on how to survive without money. The book will be divided into two parts; one part concentrating on the music and other on the ideas behind it.[10]The book is planned to be published in 2009.[11]From: hollytree1961 at hotmail.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 19:09:36 +0000
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

but bob we may not be able to contain laughter ;D)))
 
i will ask as well for free,i dont care lol
 
milindafgrant
 
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From: bbarathy at btinternet.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 18:32:16 +0000
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

If I go up then you're not allowed to snigger behind me! Or blowpipe me in the back with chewed up paper

 

boBToo

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Sent: 13 March 2009 16:15 
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) 
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: jaz date change 4 spoken word

>part of what keeps us all interested. 

And constantly frustrated 
I have a crisp £5 note for the first person to ask him about Gems of Power at the London do :o) 
Marc.  
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