[kj] The 20 greatest goth tracks?

[Alexander Smith]

My point was that just because a single track by a band is labelled  
"goth," that doesn't make that band's entire oeuvre goth.

Look, I love a lot of the goth bands -- Bauhaus, Sisters of Mercy, The  
Mish, Fields of the Nephilim, Alien Sex Fiend, the Specimen, The March  
Violets, Theatre of Hate, Danielle Dax, etc.. -- but KJ and Joy  
Division are simply a *DIFFERENT BREED OF CAT*

Alex in NYC



On Mar 12, 2009, at 4:42 PM, countessghoulita at aol.com wrote:


> I don't. I do not like Rolling Stones either, to be honest...sorry,  

> Alex...

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net 

> >; Gathering Gathering <gathering at misera.net>

> Sent: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:09 pm

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> "There is no doubt that 'LLB' is a goth tune."

>

> That the band wrote a tune that Goths like doesn't render the band  

> themselves Goths. Goths like "Paint It Black" by the Stones -- does  

> that make THEM goths?

> Alex in NYC

>

>

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Rheinhold Squeegee

> Sent: Mar 12, 2009 2:54 PM

> To: vassifer at earthlink.net, Gathering Gathering

> Subject: Re: [kj] The 20 greatest goth tracks?

>

> In Mick Mercer's "Goth Bib le" he identifies the original  

> cornerstones of Goth as Bauhaus, Theatre of Hate and Killing Joke.  

> He then quickly notes that KJ then moved in an entirely new  

> direction and tried valiantly to distance themselves from that what  

> they had wrought. But maybe Mercer's an idiot who doesn't know  

> anything..

>

> There is no doubt that "LLB" is a goth tune. Funny thing is, I've  

> been to many a "Goth"-themed club night in my day, and "LLB" is  

> literally the only KJ song that they'll ever play, at least in the  

> Midwestern backwaters I have haunted. I think the general consensus  

> would be that Killing Joke were originators of a certain  

> philosophical "vibe" that turned quickly to simple fashion and was  

> then appropriated by fat girls in fishnets and too much eye makeup.  

> The ideological link is there; the musical link, however, is brief  

> and tenuous.

>

> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:35:06 -0400

> From: vassifer at earthlink.net

> To: gathering at misera.net; gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] The 20 greatest goth tracks?

>

> The Horrors aren't bad, actually. They're possibly the *LEAST  

> ORIGINAL BAND EVER*, but their music isn't awful.

> Killing Joke, meanwhile, were not -- a re not -- and never will be  

> -- a goth band. Neither is/was Joy Division.

> Alex in NYC

>

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: countessghoulita at aol.com

> Sent: Mar 12, 2009 2:09 PM

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] The 20 greatest goth tracks?

>

>

> The Horrors? Who the heck are they? I did not know that the Jonas  

> Brothers would put on some mascara and play their douche "goth"  

> version (not before using their parents' credit card at Hot Topic).

>

> And what about all these new bands? Again Marilyn Manson? NME is  

> totally ignoring Rozz Williams. If NME quotes the Misfits, they  

> should have quoted Christian Death for sake of information (aka  

> Deathrock).

>

> As far as Killing Joke is concerned, there are other songs that may  

> represent what goth philosophy may be:  "Primitive", "Darkness  

> Before Dawn" (Melinda, you nailed it :) ), "Exorcism"...

>

> Sorry, the old geezer in me is speaking out...

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Karen Weil <karen.weil at sddt.com>

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)  

> <gathering at misera. net>

> Sent: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 10:19 am

> Subject: Re: [kj] The 20 greatest goth tracks?

>

> Agree with Milinda, but "Love" is truly a great tune, goth or  

> otherwise. Now, I have to check out this list!

>

> k.w.

> The States

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: melinda grant

> 0A

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> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:33 AM

> Subject: Re: [kj] The 20 greatest goth tracks?

>

> nice one ;) darkness befor the dawn should of been in the also!

>

> milindafgrant

>

> From: circusbar at uol.com.br

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:23:21 -0300

> Subject: [kj] The 20 greatest goth tracks?

>

> http://www.nme.com/photos/727/3/the-20-greatest-goth-tracks

>

> They put LOVE LIKE BLOOD into the 20 greatest goth tracks ever

>

> d ia z

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