[kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead

[Karen Weil]

Of course. And maybe everyone was better off when that was the case -- but Jackson's life (and the complete insanity of it) was a whole different kettle of fish. 


kw
the States 
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  Do keep in mind also that what was publicly known of Hitchcock prolly was carefully filtered by his studio and management, since "back in the day" the big studios and agents carefully tidied up the bios and carefully 'spoon fed' them to the masses. Think Roosevelt and how no one really saw him in a wheelchair or limping, or Rock Hudson 'wasn't' gay, etc...


  ... ... ... ... ... ... 

  [looking at the current state of things..]

  'Save me...
    save me from Tomorrow..
      I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'   






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  From: Karen Weil <karen.weil at sddt.com>
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  Thank you, fellower Gatherer.  : ) 

  Cheers,

  Karen W. 
  the States 
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    From: J Casavola 
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    Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 7:09 PM
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    Yeah, I'm going to agree with you there. I thought of the same thing.
     

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    From: karen.weil at sddt.com
    To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; gathering at misera.net
    Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:47:06 -0700
    Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead


    Interesting thoughts on Jackson versus someone like Hitchcock (whose brilliance was undeniable). Jackson might have been a talented mainstream entertainer, but his life's work will always be stained by the molestation charges. That's what I first thought of when I learned of his death -- not "Thriller," the dancing, etc. 
    When Hitchcock died in 1980, people remembered his flims, TV show, etc., but not his more eccentric side. 
    And so it goes.


    KW
    SoCal
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      From: Darren A. Peace 
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      It would be reasonable to argue that MJ was acquitted of the child molestation charges. It would also be reasonable to mention that he paid out many millions of dollars to silence potential litigants. The conclusion is, I think, reasonably straightforward. 



      However, Hitchcock was not a splendid fellow when he sent a very young Melanie Griffiths a little doll of her mother Tippi Hedren in a coffin. I still like his films. The issue arises, I think, when someone’s contribution to society is defined by their crimes.



      Personally, MJ’s music brought me no pleasure (I still remember cursing whenever “Rock With Me” invaded my Radio Luxembourg listening), so am not affected by his death in the same way that I was by, say, Paul Raven’s.



      What really pisses me off is the attitude of the media to this, predicated on the unshakeable conviction that I am really, really interested in the paedo. I’m not. Really, I’m not.



      I’m spending the next two weeks in an isolation tank.



      Darren

      Hungerford, UK



      From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Jim Harper
      Sent: 28 June 2009 6:05 PM
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            Aside from the implication that paedophiles are okay if they've also written some nice songs, my main grievance about this whole bloody circus is the media conspiracy to hush-up his charming recreational activities. I could be wrong, but none of the eulogies, bios and ass-kissing pieces of tripe that I've read actually mention his court cases and multi-million dollar out-of-court settlements. The closest any of them have come was a sheepish remark that "[his] later life was dogged by legal problems". Since when did being arrested count as a 'legal problem'? That makes it sound like some boundary dispute with a neigbour, or at worst a little income-tax evasion.



            It's disgraceful. If Gary Glitter had actually written some half-decent songs, does that mean he was really a nice guy? When he dies do we all have to agree not to mention his child molestation in case it offends someone?



            Jim.



            --- On Sun, 28/6/09, Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:

              It's all fucking meaningless. People have been force-fed this inane bologna for years that MJ was some sort of "genius' (the most abused word in the English language). Pile of fucking crap.

              I'm sick of it.



              Alex in NYC



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                From: jelbod at hotmail.co.uk
                To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk
                Subject: RE: [kj] Michael Jackson dead
                Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:24:17 +0100

                 
                 If his fans liked his music, why didnt they have the c.d's, downloads etc already? Why the sudden rush to purchase and d/load. Somethings smells and dont just mean his corpse! 
                 
                 Jelly.
                 


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                From: dpeace at bigfoot.com
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                Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:07:37 +0100
                Subject: Re: [kj] Michael Jackson dead

                  Oh Christ.



                http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8123085.stm



              Darren

              Hungerford, UK




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