[kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead

J Casavola elipsis44 at hotmail.com
Mon Jun 29 22:09:25 EDT 2009



Yeah, I'm going to agree with you there. I thought of the same thing.



From: karen.weil at sddt.com
To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; gathering at misera.net
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:47:06 -0700
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead






Interesting thoughts on Jackson versus someone like Hitchcock (whose brilliance was undeniable). Jackson might have been a talented mainstream entertainer, but his life's work will always be stained by the molestation charges. That's what I first thought of when I learned of his death -- not "Thriller," the dancing, etc.
When Hitchcock died in 1980, people remembered his flims, TV show, etc., but not his more eccentric side.
And so it goes.


KW
SoCal

----- Original Message -----
From: Darren A. Peace
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead



It would be reasonable to argue that MJ was acquitted of the child molestation charges. It would also be reasonable to mention that he paid out many millions of dollars to silence potential litigants. The conclusion is, I think, reasonably straightforward.

However, Hitchcock was not a splendid fellow when he sent a very young Melanie Griffiths a little doll of her mother Tippi Hedren in a coffin. I still like his films. The issue arises, I think, when someone’s contribution to society is defined by their crimes.

Personally, MJ’s music brought me no pleasure (I still remember cursing whenever “Rock With Me” invaded my Radio Luxembourg listening), so am not affected by his death in the same way that I was by, say, Paul Raven’s.

What really pisses me off is the attitude of the media to this, predicated on the unshakeable conviction that I am really, really interested in the paedo. I’m not. Really, I’m not.

I’m spending the next two weeks in an isolation tank.

Darren
Hungerford, UK


From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Jim Harper
Sent: 28 June 2009 6:05 PM
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead






Aside from the implication that paedophiles are okay if they've also written some nice songs, my main grievance about this whole bloody circus is the media conspiracy to hush-up his charming recreational activities. I could be wrong, but none of the eulogies, bios and ass-kissing pieces of tripe that I've read actually mention his court cases and multi-million dollar out-of-court settlements. The closest any of them have come was a sheepish remark that "[his] later life was dogged by legal problems". Since when did being arrested count as a 'legal problem'? That makes it sound like some boundary dispute with a neigbour, or at worst a little income-tax evasion.



It's disgraceful. If Gary Glitter had actually written some half-decent songs, does that mean he was really a nice guy? When he dies do we all have to agree not to mention his child molestation in case it offends someone?



Jim.



--- On Sun, 28/6/09, Alex Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net> wrote:



It's all fucking meaningless. People have been force-fed this inane bologna for years that MJ was some sort of "genius' (the most abused word in the English language). Pile of fucking crap.

I'm sick of it.



Alex in NYC



-----Original Message-----
From: jerry bodkin
Sent: Jun 28, 2009 11:24 AM
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: [kj] FW: Michael Jackson dead






From: jelbod at hotmail.co.uk
To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk
Subject: RE: [kj] Michael Jackson dead
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:24:17 +0100


If his fans liked his music, why didnt they have the c.d's, downloads etc already? Why the sudden rush to purchase and d/load. Somethings smells and dont just mean his corpse!

Jelly.




From: dpeace at bigfoot.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:07:37 +0100
Subject: Re: [kj] Michael Jackson dead



Oh Christ.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8123085.stm

Darren
Hungerford, UK




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