[kj] (OT) Singing rule Britannia

ade ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk
Wed Jun 17 09:52:47 EDT 2009


I guess we stick with a system that, on the whole, works. Evil liberal capitalists that we are. At least we're not slaughtering our way towards an unrealistic dream.

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Ooh I can think of someone who's gonna hate this:

http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NOTE4.HTM

"This book is part of a project on government genocide and mass killing in
this century. The aim is to test the hypothesis that the citizens of
democracies are the least likely to be murdered by their own governments;
the citizens of totalitarian, especially Marxist systems, the most likely.

... The results were shocking: according to these first figures,
independent of war and other kinds of conflict, governments probably have
murdered 119,400,000 people, Marxist governments about 95,200,000 of them.
By comparison, the battle-killed in all foreign and domestic wars in this
century total 35,700,000"


> The catholic church has a lot of blood on its hands too it should be

> pointed out.

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> According to what I've read, the Nazis aren't top of the genocide

> Leaderboard (not for want of trying, had they been in a country with a

> population like Russia or China the stats would no doubt be much higher).

> China looks like the winner according to this site, with 76 million deaths

> this century. Then again, they had a lot more natural resources to work

> with, and on...

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> The writer conducted his study in order to judge which style of government

> is more violent, looks to me like the figures for governments killing

> their own people are higher for the stats for deaths in war. Most of his

> stats concentrate on post-1900.

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> http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NOTE1.HTM

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> II 128,168,000 VICTIMS: THE DEKA-MEGAMURDERERS

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> 4. 61,911,000 Murdered: The Soviet Gulag State

> 5. 35,236,000 Murdered: The Communist Chinese Ant Hill

> 6. 20,946,000 Murdered: The Nazi Genocide State

> 7. 10,214,000 Murdered: The Depraved Nationalist Regime

>

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>> and christians [ including jehovah's witnesses ]

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>> From: folk.devil at hotmail.com

>> To: gathering at misera.net

>> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 09:03:44 -0700

>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Singing rule Britannia

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>> About 27 million Russians died in WWII.

>> Add a few million Poles (victims of both Germany and Russia)

>> Let's throw in a few Gypsies, too.

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>> From: dpeace at bigfoot.com

>> To: gathering at misera.net

>> Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 19:32:02 +0100

>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Singing rule Britannia

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>> The Jews were not the source of greatest casualty at the hands of the

>> Nazis (although the Russians, by and large, weren't singled out for such

>> hideous, organised, treatment). I am just glad that there is at least

>> one

>> group of people militant enough to ensure that we don't forget what

>> happened, for what that's worth; I see that genocide, "ethnic cleansing"

>> and the forest massacre are all still with us. It's one of the reasons

>> that I believe Holocaust denial to be such a serious crime; not because

>> the views of the individual are of great consequence, but because of the

>> pernicious long-term effects of such espousal.

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>> Having said that, it is possible to be over-reactionary. The Brit drug

>> dealers who our media recently reported were subjected to

>> "water-boarding"

>> by maniacal police actually had their heads flushed in a toilet bowl a

>> few

>> times, which, while monstrous and appalling, is not the same thing. I

>> wish

>> terms like "water-boarding", which have quite specific and weighted

>> meanings, were not bandied about; it only serves to diminish the meaning

>> and ramification.

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>> Darren

>> Hungerford, UK

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