[kj] (OT) Singing rule Britannia

[Brendan]

The catholic church has a lot of blood on its hands too it should be
pointed out.

According to what I've read, the Nazis aren't top of the genocide
Leaderboard (not for want of trying, had they been in a country with a
population like Russia or China the stats would no doubt be much higher).
China looks like the winner according to this site, with 76 million deaths
this century. Then again, they had a lot more natural resources to work
with, and on...

The writer conducted his study in order to judge which style of government
is more violent, looks to me like the figures for governments killing
their own people are higher for the stats for deaths in war. Most of his
stats concentrate on post-1900.

http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NOTE1.HTM

II 128,168,000 VICTIMS: THE DEKA-MEGAMURDERERS

4. 61,911,000 Murdered: The Soviet Gulag State
5. 35,236,000 Murdered: The Communist Chinese Ant Hill
6. 20,946,000 Murdered: The Nazi Genocide State
7. 10,214,000 Murdered: The Depraved Nationalist Regime


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> From: folk.devil at hotmail.com

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> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 09:03:44 -0700

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> About 27 million Russians died in WWII.

> Add a few million Poles (victims of both Germany and Russia)

> Let's throw in a few Gypsies, too.

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> From: dpeace at bigfoot.com

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 19:32:02 +0100

> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Singing rule Britannia

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> The Jews were not the source of greatest casualty at the hands of the

> Nazis (although the Russians, by and large, weren’t singled out for such

> hideous, organised, treatment). I am just glad that there is at least one

> group of people militant enough to ensure that we don’t forget what

> happened, for what that’s worth; I see that genocide, “ethnic cleansing”

> and the forest massacre are all still with us. It’s one of the reasons

> that I believe Holocaust denial to be such a serious crime; not because

> the views of the individual are of great consequence, but because of the

> pernicious long-term effects of such espousal.

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> Having said that, it is possible to be over-reactionary. The Brit drug

> dealers who our media recently reported were subjected to “water-boarding”

> by maniacal police actually had their heads flushed in a toilet bowl a few

> times, which, while monstrous and appalling, is not the same thing. I wish

> terms like “water-boarding”, which have quite specific and weighted

> meanings, were not bandied about; it only serves to diminish the meaning

> and ramification.

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> Darren

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