[kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...
sade1
saulomar1 at yahoo.com
Wed Jun 10 18:42:31 EDT 2009
> ..overrated
Yes, but what do you think of his $3,000 ticket prices for dinner and a song?
http://laist.com/2007/06/19/prince_annouces_hotel_roosevelt_dates_and_price.php
... ... ... ... ... ...
[looking at the current state of things..]
'Save me...
save me from Tomorrow..
I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'
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From: Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 1:25:25 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...
Screw Prince. Deplorably overrated.
Alex in NYC
On Jun 10, 2009, at 4:15 PM, Karen Weil wrote:
> Prince cover? Good God. Glad I've never heard that.
>
> k.w.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren A. Peace" <dpeace at bigfoot.com>
> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" <gathering at misera.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 12:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...
>
>
>> AHA! AN ADMISSION OF CULPABILITY.
>>
>> A spot of extraordinary rendition and you'll be 'fessing up to Once Upon A
>> Time, the Mandela Day single and that abortion of a Prince cover they did.
>>
>> Darren
>> Hungerford, UK
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
>> Behalf Of ade
>> Sent: 10 June 2009 8:31 PM
>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...
>>
>> But only the VERY early stuff !
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Karen Weil
>> Sent: 10 June 2009 19:01
>> To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke
>> (the band!)
>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...
>>
>>
>> Here, here to Darren's comments on SM. Early stuff was fantastic.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Karen
>> San Diego, USA
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren A. Peace" <dpeace at bigfoot.com>
>> To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'"
>> <gathering at misera.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 3:35 AM
>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...
>>
>>
>>> I guess so. Stadium Rock periods are seldom forgiven, unless it was clear
>>> from the start that it was the intention.
>>>
>>> And the early Simple Minds albums (Empires & Dance, Sons & Fascination &
>>> New
>>> Gold Dream) are all excellent, and there are things to like about the
>>> others
>>> too.
>>>
>>> Although the cover of "A Song From Under The Floorboards" on the bonus
>>> disc
>>> with the new album is an ABOMINATION.
>>>
>>> Darren
>>> Hungerford, UK
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Brendan
>>> Sent: 10 June 2009 11:25 AM
>>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...
>>>
>>> So tell me, is it the U2 aspirations / comparisons that have the daggers
>>> drawn for Simple Minds? I honestly thought for a long time that Waterfront
>>> was a U2 track. Very Bono.
>>>
>>> Then again, I was convinced until recently that dogs couldn't look up.
>>>
>>>> I'd imagine it's the Simple Minds influence that appealed to me.
>>>>
>>>> Darren
>>>> Hungerford, UK
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
>>>> On
>>>> Behalf Of Brendan
>>>> Sent: 10 June 2009 11:07 AM
>>>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...
>>>>
>>>> *INTENTIONALLY LOUD SNICKER*
>>>>
>>>>>> From what Jaz said at the time, it was certainly intended as a KJ album.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And I quite like it. You can all fuck off.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Darren
>>>>>
>>>>> Hungerford, UK
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
>>>>> On
>>>>> Behalf Of MichaelHead at HBOSplc.com
>>>>> Sent: 10 June 2009 8:48 AM
>>>>> To: gathering at misera.net
>>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks for the references. still reads to me that OTG started life as a
>>>>> fully fledged KJ album.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _____
>>>>>
>>>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]
>>>>> On
>>>>> Behalf Of sade1
>>>>> Sent: 10 June 2009 01:50
>>>>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
>>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...
>>>>>
>>>>> IIRC from interviews at the time, it was some kind of Jaz project where
>>>>> the
>>>>> guys played but after fighting with Jaz either or both of the 2 Pauls
>>>>> refused to have their names on it and basically ordered to Jaz to remove
>>>>> the
>>>>> names (for sure Raven did, acc. to Raven). It was all repackaged as KJ
>>>>> by
>>>>> The (Music) Man in order for The Man to recoup the costs of the album -
>>>>> so
>>>>> i
>>>>> guess all their names went back on it for that reason(?)
>>>>>
>>>>> (but don't take my word for it, see for yourself here:
>>>>> http://www.anirrationaldomain.net/articles/1987-1991/87index.html )
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ha ha,I am just noticing now how beautiful it is, the irony of it all
>>>>> that after OTG, KJ turned around and recorded EDVRE in no time at all
>>>>> and
>>>>> for almost next-to-nothing cost and it turned out ot be one of their
>>>>> best
>>>>> and most definitive albums ever.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone know offhand how long EDVRE did take to record, was it a week, or
>>>>> just under 2 weeks or... ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ... ... ... ... ... ...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [looking at the current state of things..]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 'Save me...
>>>>>
>>>>> save me from Tomorrow..
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _____
>>>>>
>>>>> From: "jpwhkj at aol.com" <jpwhkj at aol.com>
>>>>> To: gathering at misera.net
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2009 5:27:52 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, I've wondered that as well. I tend to think that it was an
>>>>> after-the-fact attempt at distancing themselves from a turd. But
>>>>> occasionally I wonder if it really was a Jaz solo album - perhaps
>>>>> especially
>>>>> in terms of composition - and the Pauls just got roped in to playing
>>>>> 'cos
>>>>> they happened to be available.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: MichaelHead at HBOSplc.com
>>>>> To: gathering at misera.net
>>>>> Sent: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 13:26
>>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...
>>>>>
>>>>> I've always been puzzled by the assertion that OTG was not meant to be a
>>>>> KJ album. How come the 2 Paul's play on the demo versions of the tracks
>>>>> then?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net
>>>>> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net?> ]
>>>>> On Behalf Of Brendan
>>>>> Sent: 09 June 2009 13:11
>>>>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
>>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...
>>>>>
>>>>> I was the first to say, KJ sans Jaz, no way. I'll be the first to agree,
>>>>> OTG IS shit. They have all but acknowledged that, and bearing in mind
>>>>> the fact that it was never intended by the band to be a fully fledged KJ
>>>>> album, I ignore it and don't let it stain their rep at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ade you going to download festival? Just saw the line up...sheesh. Some
>>>>> great stuff there. FNM would be up your alley innit? You can go and
>>>>> check out Chris Cornell's saggy tits too.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's another one - OTG is shit. Let's see who has a fucking cry over
>>>>>
>>>>>> that one!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
>>>>>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On
>>>>> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On?>
>>>>>> Behalf Of Darren A. Peace
>>>>>> Sent: 09 June 2009 12:44
>>>>>> To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Time for your meds?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Clearly you should burn all your Banshees records as a penance (but
>>>>>> don't microwave the CDs; I can attest that the bits of airborn carbon
>>>>>> take an awful lot of cleaning).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Darren
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hungerford, UK
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
>>>>>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net
>>>>> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net?> ]
>>>>>> On Behalf Of ade
>>>>>> Sent: 09 June 2009 12:32 PM
>>>>>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wow. It now appears that I've been 'singling' Siouxsie out. If you go
>>>>>> back through the thread you'll find that I was very disappointed with
>>>>>> the fact she can't sing in tune on the 7 Year Itch dvd, that's all.
>>>>>> Just because I find that dvd SO disappointing (disappointing because
>>>>>> it could have been so much better). The vocal fucks the whole thing
>>>>>> up. The performance was mind-numbingly fannytastic - I know, I was
>>>>> there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It doesn't mean that every other item I have in my Banshees collection
>>>>>
>>>>>> (99% of everything) is now rendered SHIT. It doesn't mean I have it in
>>>>>
>>>>>> for Siouxsie either. FOR FUCK SAKE.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How DARE I fucking criticise.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
>>>>>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On
>>>>> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On?>
>>>>>> Behalf Of Bette Dillinger
>>>>>> Sent: 09 June 2009 01:49
>>>>>> To: gathering at misera.net
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just watched some video from "The Seven Year Itch" tour on youtube.
>>>>>> "Voodoo Dolly" done in a primitive way was pretty captivating. Sure,
>>>>>> she sounded primitive as well, but looking at recent footage of say,
>>>>>> Johnny Rotten makes me wonder why she is being singled out. She still
>>>>>
>>>>>> has a voice, and though out of tune, she embraces that. I also
>>>>>> figured that was part of the point, and she has entralled me for years
>>>>> due to her "fuck it"
>>>>>> attitude. Her voice is spellbinding (har) despite this. John Lydon
>>>>>> can barely get the words out to "Bodies" (I watched his 2007
>>>>>> version).....and was playing the Hard Rock Casino in LV. I still
>>>>>> consider her a force to be reckoned with, I guess is what I am trying
>>>>>> to say. Her voice is even more subversive than when she started.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _____
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 17:08:32 +0100
>>>>>> From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk
>>>>>> To: gathering at misera.net
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> She's lovely :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh, well I'm glad to hear she's regaining her voice. She was nowhere
>>>>>> near as bad as that 7 yeat itch
>>>>>>
>>>>>> stuff when I saw some of the 90's Creatures gigs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
>>>>>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On
>>>>> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On?>
>>>>>> Behalf Of Steve Hackett
>>>>>> Sent: 07 June 2009 17:03
>>>>>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Its much better than the 7 yr itch, certainly, but at times she does
>>>>>> sound like a wounded buffalo when she tries to force some of the
>>>>>> notes..looks great though. I couldn't get away with a Pam Hogg catsuit
>>>>>
>>>>>> like she does and I'm NOWHERE NEAR 50...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: ade <mailto:ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk
>>>>> <mailto:ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk?> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To: A list <mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net?>
>>>>>> >
>>>>> about all things Killing
>>>>>> Joke (the band!)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 4:04 PM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does she sing in tune on the live Mantaray stuff? I have that 7 year
>>>>>> itch dvd & it's un-fucking-listenable. Utterly, utterly disappointing.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Luckily I couldn't tell she was ridiculously out of tune when I saw
>>>>>> them on that tour in Sheffield. 'twas an awesome gig...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
>>>>>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On
>>>>> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On?>
>>>>>> Behalf Of Steve Hackett
>>>>>> Sent: 06 June 2009 11:02
>>>>>> To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke
>>>>>> (the
>>>>>> band!)
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> got mine this week too - I think its pretty decent value on Amazon
>>>>>> already. Particularly enjoyed the DVD - comparing the early footage to
>>>>>
>>>>>> the latest Mantaray DVD I can safely say Siouxsie has aged a lot
>>>>>> better over the last 30 years than me...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Darren A. <mailto:dpeace at bigfoot.com
>>>>>> <mailto:dpeace at bigfoot.com?>
>>>>>> >
>>>>> Peace
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To: 'A <mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net?> >
>>>>>> list
>>>>> about all things Killing
>>>>>> Joke (the band!)'
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 4:51 PM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's a fantastic package.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It renders "Voices On The Air" obsolete, however, as it includes all
>>>>>> the Peel sessions. The quality is excellent, and the entire thing is
>>>>>> only marred by the usual pretentious wankery of Paul Morley's "essay"
>>>>>> (sic) in the booklet. The DVD is great too; I can now retire my
>>>>>> DVD-from-TV of the Rock Goes To College.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Recommended, particularly when it comes down in price a bit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Darren
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hungerford, UK
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net
>>>>>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net
>>>>> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net?> ]
>>>>>> On Behalf Of Blazingstar418
>>>>>> Sent: 22 April 2009 8:44 AM
>>>>>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This'll be a good one!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.amazon.co.uk/At-BBC-Siouxsie-Banshees/dp/B001UJGK7C/ref=dp_
>>>>>> return_1?ie=UTF8&n=229816&s=music
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A L P
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "The scene was wild and somewhat sinister. The darkness, the palms,
>>>>>> the mountainous background, the silent lake below, the impenetrable
>>>>>> canopy of space, studded with secretive and significant stars, formed
>>>>>> a stupendous setting for the savage noise and blaze of the ceremony."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _____
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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