[kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

Brendan bq at soundgardener.co.nz
Wed Jun 10 07:05:01 EDT 2009


When he starts referring to himself in 3rd person and using "one" instead
of "I", one is hanging up one's Joker's hat.


> Spot-on - he'd already disappeared up his own mythical arse by then.

> Apparently (earlier on in Extremities life) he was banging on to the

> crowds during gigs about how poor club class flights are. LOL!!!

> Extremities indeed!!! Totally out of touch with the message of the album.

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan

> Sent: 10 June 2009 11:48

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

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> They had to wait for Jaz to polish off a bucket of raw oysters, half a

> litre of Absinthe, finish a carton of Cuban cigars, and be punched in the

> stomach for an hour prior to recording the opening

> "HHHHOOOOIIIIIIIIKKKKKKKKKKHHHHHH"

>

>> Atkins reckons he did his drums in 11 hours. Then had to wait for the

>> rest

>> of the superstars to be arsed to do their bits.

>>

>> -----Original Message-----

>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On

>> Behalf Of sade1

>> Sent: 10 June 2009 01:50

>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

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>> IIRC from interviews at the time, it was some kind of Jaz project where

>> the guys played but after fighting with Jaz either or both of the 2

>> Pauls

>> refused to have their names on it and basically ordered to Jaz to remove

>> the names (for sure Raven did, acc. to Raven). It was all repackaged as

>> KJ

>> by The (Music) Man in order for The Man to recoup the costs of the album

>> -

>> so i guess all their names went back on it for that reason(?)

>> (but don't take my word for it, see for yourself here:

>> http://www.anirrationaldomain.net/articles/1987-1991/87index.html )

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>> Ha ha,I am just noticing now how beautiful it is, the irony of it all

>> that after OTG, KJ turned around and recorded EDVRE in no time at all

>> and for almost next-to-nothing cost and it turned out ot be one of

>> their best and most definitive albums ever.

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>> Anyone know offhand how long EDVRE did take to record, was it a week, or

>> just under 2 weeks or... ?

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>> ... ... ... ... ... ...

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>> [looking at the current state of things..]

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>> 'Save me...

>> save me from Tomorrow..

>> I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'

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>>

>> _____

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>> From: "jpwhkj at aol.com" <jpwhkj at aol.com>

>> To: gathering at misera.net

>> Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2009 5:27:52 PM

>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

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>> Yeah, I've wondered that as well. I tend to think that it was an

>> after-the-fact attempt at distancing themselves from a turd. But

>> occasionally I wonder if it really was a Jaz solo album - perhaps

>> especially in terms of composition - and the Pauls just got roped in to

>> playing 'cos they happened to be available.

>>

>>

>> -----Original Message-----

>> From: MichaelHead at HBOSplc.com

>> To: gathering at misera.net

>> Sent: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 13:26

>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

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>> I've always been puzzled by the assertion that OTG was not meant to be a

>>

>> KJ album. How come the 2 Paul's play on the demo versions of the tracks

>>

>> then?

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>> -----Original Message-----

>>

>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [

>> mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net

>> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net?> ]

>>

>> On Behalf Of Brendan

>>

>> Sent: 09 June 2009 13:11

>>

>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>>

>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

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>> I was the first to say, KJ sans Jaz, no way. I'll be the first to agree,

>>

>> OTG IS shit. They have all but acknowledged that, and bearing in mind

>>

>> the fact that it was never intended by the band to be a fully fledged KJ

>>

>> album, I ignore it and don't let it stain their rep at all.

>>

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>>

>> Ade you going to download festival? Just saw the line up...sheesh. Some

>>

>> great stuff there. FNM would be up your alley innit? You can go and

>>

>> check out Chris Cornell's saggy tits too.

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>>> Here's another one - OTG is shit. Let's see who has a fucking cry over

>>

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>>

>>> that one!

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>>>

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>>> -----Original Message-----

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>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

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>>> [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On

>>> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On?>

>>

>>> Behalf Of Darren A. Peace

>>

>>> Sent: 09 June 2009 12:44

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>>> To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'

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>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

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>>> Time for your meds?

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>>> Clearly you should burn all your Banshees records as a penance (but

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>>> don't microwave the CDs; I can attest that the bits of airborn carbon

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>>> take an awful lot of cleaning).

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>>> Darren

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>>> Hungerford, UK

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>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

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>>> [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net

>>> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net?> ]

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>>> On Behalf Of ade

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>>> Sent: 09 June 2009 12:32 PM

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>>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

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>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

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>>> Wow. It now appears that I've been 'singling' Siouxsie out. If you go

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>>> back through the thread you'll find that I was very disappointed with

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>>> the fact she can't sing in tune on the 7 Year Itch dvd, that's all.

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>>> Just because I find that dvd SO disappointing (disappointing because

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>>> it could have been so much better). The vocal fucks the whole thing

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>>> up. The performance was mind-numbingly fannytastic - I know, I was

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>> there.

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>>> It doesn't mean that every other item I have in my Banshees collection

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>>> (99% of everything) is now rendered SHIT. It doesn't mean I have it in

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>>> for Siouxsie either. FOR FUCK SAKE.

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>>> How DARE I fucking criticise.

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>>> -----Original Message-----

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>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

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>>> [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On

>>> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On?>

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>>> Behalf Of Bette Dillinger

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>>> Sent: 09 June 2009 01:49

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>>> To: gathering at misera.net

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>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

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>>> I just watched some video from "The Seven Year Itch" tour on youtube.

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>>> "Voodoo Dolly" done in a primitive way was pretty captivating. Sure,

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>>> she sounded primitive as well, but looking at recent footage of say,

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>>> Johnny Rotten makes me wonder why she is being singled out. She still

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>>> has a voice, and though out of tune, she embraces that. I also

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>>> figured that was part of the point, and she has entralled me for years

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>> due to her "fuck it"

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>>> attitude. Her voice is spellbinding (har) despite this. John Lydon

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>>> can barely get the words out to "Bodies" (I watched his 2007

>>

>>> version).....and was playing the Hard Rock Casino in LV. I still

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>>> consider her a force to be reckoned with, I guess is what I am trying

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>>> to say. Her voice is even more subversive than when she started.

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>>> _____

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>>> Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 17:08:32 +0100

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>>> From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk

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>>> To: gathering at misera.net

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>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

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>>> She's lovely :)

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>>> Oh, well I'm glad to hear she's regaining her voice. She was nowhere

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>>> near as bad as that 7 yeat itch

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>>> stuff when I saw some of the 90's Creatures gigs.

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>>> -----Original Message-----

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>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

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>>> [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On

>>> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On?>

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>>> Behalf Of Steve Hackett

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>>> Sent: 07 June 2009 17:03

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>>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

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>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

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>>> Its much better than the 7 yr itch, certainly, but at times she does

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>>> sound like a wounded buffalo when she tries to force some of the

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>>> notes..looks great though. I couldn't get away with a Pam Hogg catsuit

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>>> like she does and I'm NOWHERE NEAR 50...

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>>> ----- Original Message -----

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>>> From: ade < mailto:ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk

>>> <mailto:ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk?> >

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>>> To: A list < mailto:gathering at misera.net

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>>> > about all things Killing

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>>> Joke (the band!)

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>>> Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 4:04 PM

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>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

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>>> Does she sing in tune on the live Mantaray stuff? I have that 7 year

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>>> itch dvd & it's un-fucking-listenable. Utterly, utterly disappointing.

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>>> Luckily I couldn't tell she was ridiculously out of tune when I saw

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>>> them on that tour in Sheffield. 'twas an awesome gig...

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>>> -----Original Message-----

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>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

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>>> [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On

>>> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On?>

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>>> Behalf Of Steve Hackett

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>>> Sent: 06 June 2009 11:02

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>>> To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke

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>>> (the

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>>> band!)

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>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

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>>>

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>>> got mine this week too - I think its pretty decent value on Amazon

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>>> already. Particularly enjoyed the DVD - comparing the early footage to

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>>> the latest Mantaray DVD I can safely say Siouxsie has aged a lot

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>>> better over the last 30 years than me...

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>>> ----- Original Message -----

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>>> From: Darren A. < mailto:dpeace at bigfoot.com

>>> <mailto:dpeace at bigfoot.com?> > Peace

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>>> To: 'A < mailto:gathering at misera.net <mailto:gathering at misera.net?> >

>>> list about all things Killing

>>

>>> Joke (the band!)'

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>>> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 4:51 PM

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>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

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>>> It's a fantastic package.

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>>> It renders "Voices On The Air" obsolete, however, as it includes all

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>>> the Peel sessions. The quality is excellent, and the entire thing is

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>>> only marred by the usual pretentious wankery of Paul Morley's "essay"

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>>> (sic) in the booklet. The DVD is great too; I can now retire my

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>>> DVD-from-TV of the Rock Goes To College.

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>>> Recommended, particularly when it comes down in price a bit.

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>>> Darren

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>>> Hungerford, UK

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>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

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>>> [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net

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>>> On Behalf Of Blazingstar418

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>>> Sent: 22 April 2009 8:44 AM

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>>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

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>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

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>>> This'll be a good one!

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>>> http://www.amazon.co.uk/At-BBC-Siouxsie-Banshees/dp/B001UJGK7C/ref=dp_

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>>> A L P

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>>> the mountainous background, the silent lake below, the impenetrable

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>>> canopy of space, studded with secretive and significant stars, formed

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>>> a stupendous setting for the savage noise and blaze of the ceremony."

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