[kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

[Brendan]

They had to wait for Jaz to polish off a bucket of raw oysters, half a
litre of Absinthe, finish a carton of Cuban cigars, and be punched in the
stomach for an hour prior to recording the opening
"HHHHOOOOIIIIIIIIKKKKKKKKKKHHHHHH"


> Atkins reckons he did his drums in 11 hours. Then had to wait for the rest

> of the superstars to be arsed to do their bits.

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> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On

> Behalf Of sade1

> Sent: 10 June 2009 01:50

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

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> IIRC from interviews at the time, it was some kind of Jaz project where

> the guys played but after fighting with Jaz either or both of the 2 Pauls

> refused to have their names on it and basically ordered to Jaz to remove

> the names (for sure Raven did, acc. to Raven). It was all repackaged as KJ

> by The (Music) Man in order for The Man to recoup the costs of the album -

> so i guess all their names went back on it for that reason(?)

>  (but don't take my word for it, see for yourself here:

> http://www.anirrationaldomain.net/articles/1987-1991/87index.html )

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>    Ha ha,I am just noticing now how beautiful it is, the irony of it all

> that after OTG, KJ turned around and recorded EDVRE in no time at all

> and for almost next-to-nothing cost and it turned out ot be one of

> their best and most definitive albums ever.

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> Anyone know offhand how long EDVRE did take to record, was it a week, or

> just under 2 weeks or... ?

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> ... ... ... ... ... ...

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> [looking at the current state of things..]

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> 'Save me...

>   save me from Tomorrow..

>     I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'

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> From: "jpwhkj at aol.com" <jpwhkj at aol.com>

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2009 5:27:52 PM

> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

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> Yeah, I've wondered that as well.  I tend to think that it was an

> after-the-fact attempt at distancing themselves from a turd.  But

> occasionally I wonder if it really was a Jaz solo album - perhaps

> especially in terms of composition - and the Pauls just got roped in to

> playing 'cos they happened to be available.

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> -----Original Message-----

> From: MichaelHead at HBOSplc.com

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Sent: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 13:26

> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

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> I've always been puzzled by the assertion that OTG was not meant to be a

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> KJ album. How come the 2 Paul's play on the demo versions of the tracks

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> then?

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> From:  gathering-bounces at misera.net [ mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net

> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net?> ]

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> On Behalf Of Brendan

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> Sent: 09 June 2009 13:11

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> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

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> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

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> I was the first to say, KJ sans Jaz, no way. I'll be the first to agree,

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> OTG IS shit. They have all but acknowledged that, and bearing in mind

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> the fact that it was never intended by the band to be a fully fledged KJ

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> album, I ignore it and don't let it stain their rep at all.

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> Ade you going to download festival? Just saw the line up...sheesh. Some

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> great stuff there. FNM would be up your alley innit? You can go and

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> check out Chris Cornell's saggy tits too.

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>> Here's another one - OTG is shit. Let's see who has a fucking cry over

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>> that one!

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>> -----Original Message-----

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>> From:  gathering-bounces at misera.net

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>> Behalf Of Darren A. Peace

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>> Sent: 09 June 2009 12:44

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>> To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'

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>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

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>> Time for your meds?

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>> Clearly you should burn all your Banshees records as a penance (but

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>> don't microwave the CDs; I can attest that the bits of airborn carbon

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>> take an awful lot of cleaning).

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>> Darren

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>> Hungerford, UK

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>> From:  gathering-bounces at misera.net

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>> On Behalf Of ade

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>> Sent: 09 June 2009 12:32 PM

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>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

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>> Wow. It now appears that I've been 'singling' Siouxsie out. If you go

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>> back through the thread you'll find that I was very disappointed with

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>> the fact she can't sing in tune on the 7 Year Itch dvd, that's all.

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>> Just because I find that dvd SO disappointing (disappointing because

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>> it could have been so much better). The vocal fucks the whole thing

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>> up. The performance was mind-numbingly fannytastic - I know, I was

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>> It doesn't mean that every other item I have in my Banshees collection

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>> (99% of everything) is now rendered SHIT. It doesn't mean I have it in

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>> for Siouxsie either. FOR FUCK SAKE.

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>> How DARE I fucking criticise.

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>> Behalf Of Bette Dillinger

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>> Sent: 09 June 2009 01:49

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>> To:  gathering at misera.net

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>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

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>> I just watched some video from "The Seven Year Itch" tour on youtube.

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>> "Voodoo Dolly" done in a primitive way was pretty captivating.  Sure,

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>> she sounded primitive as well, but looking at recent footage of say,

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>> Johnny Rotten makes me wonder why she is being singled out.  She still

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>> has a voice, and though out of tune, she embraces that.  I also

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>> figured that was part of the point, and she has entralled me for years

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> due to her "fuck it"

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>> attitude.  Her voice is spellbinding (har) despite this.  John Lydon

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>> can barely get the words out to "Bodies" (I watched his 2007

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>> version).....and was playing the Hard Rock Casino in LV.  I still

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>> consider her a force to be reckoned with, I guess is what I am trying

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>> to say.  Her voice is even more subversive than when she started.

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>> Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 17:08:32 +0100

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>> From:  ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk

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>> To:  gathering at misera.net

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>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

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>> She's lovely :)

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>> Oh, well I'm glad to hear she's regaining her voice. She was nowhere

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>> near as bad as that 7 yeat itch

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>> stuff when I saw some of the 90's Creatures gigs.

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>> Behalf Of Steve Hackett

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>> Sent: 07 June 2009 17:03

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>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

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>> Its much better than the 7 yr itch, certainly, but at times she does

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>> sound like a wounded buffalo when she tries to force some of the

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>> notes..looks great though. I couldn't get away with a Pam Hogg catsuit

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>> like she does and I'm NOWHERE NEAR 50...

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>> Does she sing in tune on the live Mantaray stuff? I have that 7 year

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>> itch dvd & it's un-fucking-listenable. Utterly, utterly disappointing.

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>> Luckily I couldn't tell she was ridiculously out of tune when I saw

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>> them on that tour in Sheffield. 'twas an awesome gig...

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>> Behalf Of Steve Hackett

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>> Sent: 06 June 2009 11:02

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>> got mine this week too - I think its pretty decent value on Amazon

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>> already. Particularly enjoyed the DVD - comparing the early footage to

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>> the latest Mantaray DVD I can safely say Siouxsie has aged a lot

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>> better over the last 30 years than me...

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>> From: Darren A.  < mailto:dpeace at bigfoot.com

>> <mailto:dpeace at bigfoot.com?> > Peace

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>> It's a fantastic package.

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>> It renders "Voices On The Air" obsolete, however, as it includes all

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>> the Peel sessions. The quality is excellent, and the entire thing is

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>> only marred by the usual pretentious wankery of Paul Morley's "essay"

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>> (sic) in the booklet. The DVD is great too; I can now retire my

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>> DVD-from-TV of the Rock Goes To College.

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>> Recommended, particularly when it comes down in price a bit.

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>> Sent: 22 April 2009 8:44 AM

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>> This'll be a good one!

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>> canopy of space, studded with secretive and significant stars, formed

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>> a stupendous setting for the savage noise and blaze of the ceremony."

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