[kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

[Brendan]

So tell me, is it the U2 aspirations / comparisons that have the daggers
drawn for Simple Minds? I honestly thought for a long time that Waterfront
was a U2 track. Very Bono.

Then again, I was convinced until recently that dogs couldn't look up.


> I'd imagine it's the Simple Minds influence that appealed to me.

>

> Darren

> Hungerford, UK

>

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> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

> On

> Behalf Of Brendan

> Sent: 10 June 2009 11:07 AM

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

>

> *INTENTIONALLY LOUD SNICKER*

>

>>>From what Jaz said at the time, it was certainly intended as a KJ album.

>>

>>

>>

>> And I quite like it. You can all fuck off.

>>

>>

>>

>> Darren

>>

>> Hungerford, UK

>>

>>

>>

>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

>> On

>> Behalf Of MichaelHead at HBOSplc.com

>> Sent: 10 June 2009 8:48 AM

>> To: gathering at misera.net

>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

>>

>>

>>

>> thanks for the references. still reads to me that OTG started life as a

>> fully fledged KJ album.

>>

>>

>>

>>   _____

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>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

>> On

>> Behalf Of sade1

>> Sent: 10 June 2009 01:50

>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

>>

>> IIRC from interviews at the time, it was some kind of Jaz project where

>> the

>> guys played but after fighting with Jaz either or both of the 2 Pauls

>> refused to have their names on it and basically ordered to Jaz to remove

>> the

>> names (for sure Raven did, acc. to Raven). It was all repackaged as KJ

>> by

>> The (Music) Man in order for The Man to recoup the costs of the album -

>> so

>> i

>> guess all their names went back on it for that reason(?)

>>

>>  (but don't take my word for it, see for yourself here:

>> http://www.anirrationaldomain.net/articles/1987-1991/87index.html )

>>

>>

>>

>>    Ha ha,I am just noticing now how beautiful it is, the irony of it all

>> that after OTG, KJ turned around and recorded EDVRE in no time at all

>> and

>> for almost next-to-nothing cost and it turned out ot be one of their

>> best

>> and most definitive albums ever.

>>

>>

>>

>> Anyone know offhand how long EDVRE did take to record, was it a week, or

>> just under 2 weeks or... ?

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> ... ... ... ... ... ...

>>

>>

>> [looking at the current state of things..]

>>

>>

>>

>> 'Save me...

>>

>>   save me from Tomorrow..

>>

>>     I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'

>>

>>

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>> From: "jpwhkj at aol.com" <jpwhkj at aol.com>

>> To: gathering at misera.net

>> Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2009 5:27:52 PM

>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

>>

>> Yeah, I've wondered that as well.  I tend to think that it was an

>> after-the-fact attempt at distancing themselves from a turd.  But

>> occasionally I wonder if it really was a Jaz solo album - perhaps

>> especially

>> in terms of composition - and the Pauls just got roped in to playing

>> 'cos

>> they happened to be available.

>>

>>

>> -----Original Message-----

>> From: MichaelHead at HBOSplc.com

>> To: gathering at misera.net

>> Sent: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 13:26

>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

>>

>> I've always been puzzled by the assertion that OTG was not meant to be a

>> KJ album. How come the 2 Paul's play on the demo versions of the tracks

>> then?

>>

>>

>>

>> -----Original Message-----

>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net

>> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net?> ]

>> On Behalf Of Brendan

>> Sent: 09 June 2009 13:11

>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

>>

>> I was the first to say, KJ sans Jaz, no way. I'll be the first to agree,

>> OTG IS shit. They have all but acknowledged that, and bearing in mind

>> the fact that it was never intended by the band to be a fully fledged KJ

>> album, I ignore it and don't let it stain their rep at all.

>>

>> Ade you going to download festival? Just saw the line up...sheesh. Some

>> great stuff there. FNM would be up your alley innit? You can go and

>> check out Chris Cornell's saggy tits too.

>>

>>> Here's another one - OTG is shit. Let's see who has a fucking cry over

>>

>>> that one!

>>>

>>> -----Original Message-----

>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

>>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On

>> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On?>

>>> Behalf Of Darren A. Peace

>>> Sent: 09 June 2009 12:44

>>> To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'

>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Time for your meds?

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Clearly you should burn all your Banshees records as a penance (but

>>> don't microwave the CDs; I can attest that the bits of airborn carbon

>>> take an awful lot of cleaning).

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Darren

>>>

>>> Hungerford, UK

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

>>> [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net

>> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net?> ]

>>> On Behalf Of ade

>>> Sent: 09 June 2009 12:32 PM

>>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Wow. It now appears that I've been 'singling' Siouxsie out. If you go

>>> back through the thread you'll find that I was very disappointed with

>>> the fact she can't sing in tune on the 7 Year Itch dvd, that's all.

>>> Just because I find that dvd SO disappointing (disappointing because

>>> it could have been so much better). The vocal fucks the whole thing

>>> up. The performance was mind-numbingly fannytastic - I know, I was

>> there.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> It doesn't mean that every other item I have in my Banshees collection

>>

>>> (99% of everything) is now rendered SHIT. It doesn't mean I have it in

>>

>>> for Siouxsie either. FOR FUCK SAKE.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> How DARE I fucking criticise.

>>>

>>>

>>>

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>> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On?>

>>> Behalf Of Bette Dillinger

>>> Sent: 09 June 2009 01:49

>>> To: gathering at misera.net

>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

>>>

>>> I just watched some video from "The Seven Year Itch" tour on youtube.

>>> "Voodoo Dolly" done in a primitive way was pretty captivating.  Sure,

>>> she sounded primitive as well, but looking at recent footage of say,

>>> Johnny Rotten makes me wonder why she is being singled out.  She still

>>

>>> has a voice, and though out of tune, she embraces that.  I also

>>> figured that was part of the point, and she has entralled me for years

>> due to her "fuck it"

>>> attitude.  Her voice is spellbinding (har) despite this.  John Lydon

>>> can barely get the words out to "Bodies" (I watched his 2007

>>> version).....and was playing the Hard Rock Casino in LV.  I still

>>> consider her a force to be reckoned with, I guess is what I am trying

>>> to say.  Her voice is even more subversive than when she started.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>   _____

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>>>

>>> Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 17:08:32 +0100

>>> From: ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk

>>> To: gathering at misera.net

>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

>>>

>>> She's lovely :)

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Oh, well I'm glad to hear she's regaining her voice. She was nowhere

>>> near as bad as that 7 yeat itch

>>>

>>> stuff when I saw some of the 90's Creatures gigs.

>>>

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>>> From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

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>> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On?>

>>> Behalf Of Steve Hackett

>>> Sent: 07 June 2009 17:03

>>> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

>>>

>>> Its much better than the 7 yr itch, certainly, but at times she does

>>> sound like a wounded buffalo when she tries to force some of the

>>> notes..looks great though. I couldn't get away with a Pam Hogg catsuit

>>

>>> like she does and I'm NOWHERE NEAR 50...

>>>

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>>> From: ade <mailto:ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk

>> <mailto:ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk?> >

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>>> Joke (the band!)

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>>> Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 4:04 PM

>>>

>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

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>>>

>>>

>>> Does she sing in tune on the live Mantaray stuff? I have that 7 year

>>> itch dvd & it's un-fucking-listenable. Utterly, utterly disappointing.

>>

>>> Luckily I couldn't tell she was ridiculously out of tune when I saw

>>> them on that tour in Sheffield. 'twas an awesome gig...

>>>

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>> <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On?>

>>> Behalf Of Steve Hackett

>>> Sent: 06 June 2009 11:02

>>> To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk; A list about all things Killing Joke

>>> (the

>>> band!)

>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

>>>

>>> got mine this week too - I think its pretty decent value on Amazon

>>> already. Particularly enjoyed the DVD - comparing the early footage to

>>

>>> the latest Mantaray DVD I can safely say Siouxsie has aged a lot

>>> better over the last 30 years than me...

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>>> From: Darren A.  <mailto:dpeace at bigfoot.com

>>> <mailto:dpeace at bigfoot.com?>

>>> >

>> Peace

>>>

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>>> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 4:51 PM

>>>

>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> It's a fantastic package.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> It renders "Voices On The Air" obsolete, however, as it includes all

>>> the Peel sessions. The quality is excellent, and the entire thing is

>>> only marred by the usual pretentious wankery of Paul Morley's "essay"

>>> (sic) in the booklet. The DVD is great too; I can now retire my

>>> DVD-from-TV of the Rock Goes To College.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Recommended, particularly when it comes down in price a bit.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Darren

>>>

>>> Hungerford, UK

>>>

>>>

>>>

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>>> On Behalf Of Blazingstar418

>>> Sent: 22 April 2009 8:44 AM

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>>> Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

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>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> This'll be a good one!

>>>

>>> http://www.amazon.co.uk/At-BBC-Siouxsie-Banshees/dp/B001UJGK7C/ref=dp_

>>> return_1?ie=UTF8&n=229816&s=music

>>>

>>> A L P

>>>

>>>

>>> "The scene was wild and somewhat sinister. The darkness, the palms,

>>> the mountainous background, the silent lake below, the impenetrable

>>> canopy of space, studded with secretive and significant stars, formed

>>> a stupendous setting for the savage noise and blaze of the ceremony."

>>>

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