[kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...

[ade]

I mourn the passing of the variety of vocal styles on Extremities.

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Aleph Kali
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I saw the 7 year itch tour also and was less than thrilled at the results.

I don't know how many vocalists there are here on the list, but after a while you can become incapable of recapturing the *notes of your youth*. 

Bearing in mind that she's been singing some of these songs (without any *proper* training) for 30ish years and that can be a bit damaging your voice.

The reason that The Creatures and her "Mantaray" material works for her is that she's singing in a different vocal range now.
She's not aiming for notes that are no longer within her *reach*.

Some other folks that can't hit all those high notes anymore include Jaz Coleman, Robert Plant, Bruce Dickinson and even Luciano Pavarotti! ;)

"Love Me Like A Reptile"

A L P

On Jun 8, 2009, at 2:22 PM, "ade" < ade at the-lab.zetnet.co.uk> wrote:



Mate, if it's got the Rock Goes to College gig on it, it's going to be bloody good !  Isn't Nocturne one of the best recorded gigs ever? Well, it's one of mine anyway...
 
Was reading about the 7YearTwitch dvd last night - yep, universally panned, except by the odd delusional sort.

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The new BBC 4 disc set is excellent thouigh.

She sings pretty darn good on the live stuff.

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Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 20:25:54 +0100


Absolutely spot-on - "why on earth did it get through?" is THE question.

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Don't get me wrong -- I'm not defending her performance, just trying to understand it. I'd certainly imagine that she'd listened to the material before it was released on cd/dvd and heard for herself how ripe her ridicule her vocals were. 

Alex in NYC



On Jun 7, 2009, at 3:17 PM, ade wrote:


I don't really see how the configuration of the band would make Siouxsie sing so poorly, as you've
heard yourself from listening to it. Back to basics, or whatever, it still doesn't make any sense why
she'd be so SO out that it's painful. No excuses man, I gave up after buying that massively disappointing
dvd. If she couldn't hear herself, she mustn't have been able to hear herself on every fuckin date, lol !
 
Glad I was too pissed/star-struck for it to spoil my night. I think I'll have to sell the dvd, such is its'
unwatchable-ness.
 
Anyone want a dvd of Siouxsie honking like a fucking goose with the Banshees? And before anyone
says it, I mean worse than usual !

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I think the whole concept of 7 Year Itch was the back-to-basics approach. Witness the fact that she didn't augment the line-up with a keyboard player, a percussionist, a second guitarist, etc. It was just a four-piece with her out front, just like in the (very) old days. That she sang flat or out of tune wasn't so much by design, but rather just the "warts n' all" delivery." 

For what it's worth, I saw her on that tour and it was as dreadful a performance as the one captured on the disc.

Alex in NYC



On Jun 7, 2009, at 2:50 PM, Darren A. Peace wrote:



I got a promo of 7 Year Itch and was so appalled by the flat singing I didn’t buy the album. Only Banshees album I haven’t paid for. She’s badly out of tune on several studio tracks, but that’s sometimes part of the appeal. 7 Year Itch just sounded like she couldn’t hear anything through monitors; she’s consistently a quarter-tone flat, rather than bellowing all over the place.

Darren
Hungerford, UK

From:   <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net> gathering-bounces at misera.net [  <mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net> mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of ade
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Does she sing in tune on the live Mantaray stuff? I have that 7 year itch dvd & it's un-fucking-listenable. Utterly, utterly disappointing. Luckily I couldn't tell she was ridiculously out of tune when I saw them on that tour in Sheffield. 'twas an awesome gig...

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Sent: 06 June 2009 11:02
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Subject: Re: [kj] (OT) Speaking of Banshees...
got mine this week too - I think its pretty decent value on Amazon already. Particularly enjoyed the DVD - comparing the early footage to the latest Mantaray DVD I can safely say Siouxsie has aged a lot better over the last 30 years than me...

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