[kj] (Very OT) Bruno - Autism

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Mon Jul 13 18:58:04 EDT 2009



I did not want to write that they should have gone f*** themselves right away, and never come back.







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Far better alternative that looking at fotos of
their pornographic exploits. ; )


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k.w.




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Exactly. And all those idiots wasting their
vote on her "Love Party"....they should have gone fly a kite (yes, it is the
equivalent of....I need composure).





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Heh! Oh, because I missed out on the complete
Cicciolina mania?? ; )?


(It was bad enough to see one especially
pretenious couple dressed up as those two at a Halloween couple back in the
day.)


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Ciao,


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kw




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You were so lucky for living
on the other side of the pond.







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I remember seeing the infamous photos she and
Koons posed for in the Stedelijk back in late '92 (the year their
relationship was popular media fodder here in the States).


That was more than enough for me.


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KW


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I still remember the press
coverage about her election. And also when one of her beloved pythons
died. Hopefully of natural causes...or aging.





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Yeah ... just ask Jeff Koons. ; )


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Cheers,


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Karen W.


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Ilona
Staller rules!
















Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 11:47:23 -0700
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> Mussolini is being re-evaluated by many.



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Really?? I didn't think a country with a?Burlesque'oni as PM would even re-consider the Mussolini option.


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... ... ... ... ... ...



[looking at the
current?state of
things..]


?


'Save me...


? save
me?from Tomorrow..


??? I don't want to sail in this Ship Of
Fools...'??


?













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Jo, my grandfather fought
both WWs as well (WW2 ad a partisan).
I concur, but history is being
forgotten at a very fast rate. Mussolini is being re-evaluated by many.
This is sad.









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lol I can remember that being one of my late Grandad's
(fought in both WWs) slogan: 'You young 'uns, you just don't care
anymore'.


I think most people do care but time marches on
and?as events begin to move out of living memory,?you can't
expect them to be on the forefront of everyone's minds. Particularly
when there's new scraps and current life to think about.


?


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Unless they have part
of their family deported to and killed in a concentration camp or were
in misery during WW2...but people don't care anymore, they don't care
even about what might have happened two days before. Sad. My family
can't forget. And I can't, nor ever will.










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So I should sympathize with people who don't know Nazi
jokes aren't funny? Sorry, but nobody is that stupid. Every
Bernard Manning knows precisely why his jokes aren't funny and
why most people choose not to tell them. They simply
decide?they don't care and tell them anyway. So it's their
choice and they must take the consequences. They're no more
handicapped than I am, and like me, they're responsible for
their actions.


?


Jim.

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From:
jo <jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk>
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11 July, 2009, 4:04 PM





Then you? in turn, are?taking
the? mick out of someone who is socially
crippled.


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Sorry if this is irrelevant, I haven't followed
the entire thread, so apologies in advance.



Humour involving real problems or disabilities is
not necessarily the same thing as humour at the
expense of real problems or disabilities. I mean, look
at The Office- if David Brent says something howlingly
inappropriate about women/blacks/homosexuals etc etc,
is it funny because he's managed to work them into a
joke, or because he's such a colossal wanker that he
doesn't see why he shouldn't say that? It's the
latter. It's not funny because of the subject matter.
The Office takes the piss out of people who tell jokes
about people with disabilities, thinking they're
actually funny. We know they're not, so we can laugh
at the idiots who think they are.


?


My stepfather used to come home and?tell me
all the latest?jokes he'd heard?about the
Holocaust or women or foreigners. I don't think he
ever understood (well, maybe at the end) that I wasn't
laughing at his jokes, I was laughing at the sad git
who thought they were funny. I have plenty of reasons
to dislike jokes about autism, but I'm all in favour
of making the people who tell them look like
idiots.


?


Jim.



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From:
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Saturday, 11 July, 2009, 3:42 PM





EH! ?WHAT? ?Who woke me up? ?Oh, the
A word got used. ?Ah...





Still ain't seen any connection between Mr.
B.C, his Gay friend and Autism. ?Excepting his
first cousin - a fine fellow, and a keen bass
guitarist too. ?






I think being able to make fun of yourself is a
good sign. ?I've spent mucho time getting
laughed at for the wrong reasons - was trying not to
be disabled. ?Hence my 'outness'.
?Sometimes, you gotta fall flat on that face.
?Just natural. ?Then the world will laugh
at you.






More serious we want to get taken the harder
they judge you? ?Mind you, I spend my life
trying to help people since I was a small child, not
knocking anyone's disabilities. ?Bit odd that,
but I kinda always knew I wasn't some sort of
superman.






Jo - Take the piss out of a counselling
session? ?I call my sessions 'conversations on
the Gatherers list'.




Oh God....






I feel fat too. ?Oh Dear God...




From: jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk
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Date: Sat,
11 Jul 2009 07:08:22 +0100
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(Very OT) Bruno - Autism



I think you are.?



In a way 'suffering' from
something sort of makes you bit?more entitled
to laugh about it.? I'd rather take the piss
out of something than go for a councelling
session.? Much less gloomy and more positive
IMO.


?


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Can I test the waters? I put
on some weight a while back when I couldn't go to
the gym for a couple years...perhaps 30 pounds or
so. I noticed one day as I was sitting down,
leaning slightly to one side, I felt a *plop* as a
little roll of fat was birthed into existence
around my floating ribs...as a tall skinny type
and gym freak for most of my life it was one of
the most disgusting, yet funny, experiences I've
ever had. Relating it to other people has been
quite funny...does that make me bad for making fun
of fat people? Can I no longer do it after losing
the weight...?







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Not
on my watch if physical and mental disabilities
are made fun of. My apologies.









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Not that I've seen any of the
said films?(saw Ali G on Richard and Judy
once) but I'm with you on that.


If you're brave or daft enough
to crack a joke in the wrong place at the wrong
time you'll suffer; but you have the right to do
it.





I
can't stand the idea of certain topics being
taboo, where humour is concerned. Fuck that.
Either it's all okay or none of it is okay.


Leigh










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