[kj] (Very OT) Bruno - Autism
countessghoulita at aol.com
countessghoulita at aol.com
Mon Jul 13 18:51:44 EDT 2009
Exactly. And all those idiots wasting their vote on her "Love Party"....they should have gone fly a kite (yes, it is the equivalent of....I need composure).
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Heh! Oh, because I missed out on the complete
Cicciolina mania?? ; )?
(It was bad enough to see one especially pretenious
couple dressed up as those two at a Halloween couple back in the
day.)
?
?
Ciao,
?
kw
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You were so lucky for living on
the other side of the pond.
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I remember seeing the infamous photos she and
Koons posed for in the Stedelijk back in late '92 (the year their relationship
was popular media fodder here in the States).
That was more than enough for me.
?
?
KW
the States
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I still remember the press
coverage about her election. And also when one of her beloved pythons died.
Hopefully of natural causes...or aging.
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Yeah ... just ask Jeff Koons. ; )
?
Cheers,
?
Karen W.
SoCal
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Ilona
Staller rules!
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 11:47:23 -0700
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com
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> Mussolini is being re-evaluated by many.
?
Really?? I didn't think a country with a?Burlesque'oni as PM would even re-consider the Mussolini option.
?
?
... ... ... ... ... ...
[looking at the
current?state of
things..]
?
'Save me...
? save
me?from Tomorrow..
??? I
don't want to sail in this Ship Of
Fools...'??
?
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11:17:26 AM
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[kj] (Very OT) Bruno - Autism
Jo, my grandfather fought
both WWs as well (WW2 ad a partisan).
I concur, but history is being
forgotten at a very fast rate. Mussolini is being re-evaluated by many.
This is sad.
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lol I can remember that being one of my late Grandad's
(fought in both WWs) slogan: 'You young 'uns, you just don't care
anymore'.
I think most people do care but time marches on
and?as events begin to move out of living memory,?you can't
expect them to be on the forefront of everyone's minds. Particularly when
there's new scraps and current life to think about.
?
?
Unless they have part of
their family deported to and killed in a concentration camp or were in
misery during WW2...but people don't care anymore, they don't care even
about what might have happened two days before. Sad. My family can't
forget. And I can't, nor ever will.
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So I should sympathize with people who don't know Nazi jokes
aren't funny? Sorry, but nobody is that stupid. Every Bernard
Manning knows precisely why his jokes aren't funny and why most
people choose not to tell them. They simply decide?they don't
care and tell them anyway. So it's their choice and they must take
the consequences. They're no more handicapped than I am, and like
me, they're responsible for their actions.
?
Jim.
--- On Sat, 11/7/09, jo <jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk>
wrote:
From:
jo <jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk>
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(Very OT) Bruno - Autism
To: "A list about all things Killing
Joke (the band!)" <gathering at misera.net>
Date: Saturday, 11
July, 2009, 4:04 PM
Then you? in turn, are?taking
the? mick out of someone who is socially
crippled.
?
?
Sorry if this is irrelevant, I haven't followed the
entire thread, so apologies in advance.
Humour involving real problems or disabilities is
not necessarily the same thing as humour at the expense
of real problems or disabilities. I mean, look at The
Office- if David Brent says something howlingly
inappropriate about women/blacks/homosexuals etc etc, is
it funny because he's managed to work them into a joke,
or because he's such a colossal wanker that he doesn't
see why he shouldn't say that? It's the latter. It's not
funny because of the subject matter. The Office takes
the piss out of people who tell jokes about people with
disabilities, thinking they're actually funny. We know
they're not, so we can laugh at the idiots who think
they are.
?
My stepfather used to come home and?tell me
all the latest?jokes he'd heard?about the
Holocaust or women or foreigners. I don't think he ever
understood (well, maybe at the end) that I wasn't
laughing at his jokes, I was laughing at the sad git who
thought they were funny. I have plenty of reasons to
dislike jokes about autism, but I'm all in favour of
making the people who tell them look like idiots.
?
Jim.
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Date:
Saturday, 11 July, 2009, 3:42 PM
EH! ?WHAT? ?Who woke me up? ?Oh, the A
word got used. ?Ah...
Still ain't seen any connection between Mr. B.C,
his Gay friend and Autism. ?Excepting his first
cousin - a fine fellow, and a keen bass guitarist too.
?
I think being able to make fun of yourself is a
good sign. ?I've spent mucho time getting laughed
at for the wrong reasons - was trying not to be
disabled. ?Hence my 'outness'. ?Sometimes,
you gotta fall flat on that face. ?Just natural.
?Then the world will laugh at you.
More serious we want to get taken the harder they
judge you? ?Mind you, I spend my life trying to
help people since I was a small child, not knocking
anyone's disabilities. ?Bit odd that, but I kinda
always knew I wasn't some sort of superman.
Jo - Take the piss out of a counselling session?
?I call my sessions 'conversations on the
Gatherers list'.
Oh God....
I feel fat too. ?Oh Dear God...
From: jo at arcadia.karoo.co.uk
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Date: Sat, 11
Jul 2009 07:08:22 +0100
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Bruno - Autism
I think you are.?
In a way 'suffering' from something
sort of makes you bit?more entitled to laugh
about it.? I'd rather take the piss out of
something than go for a councelling session.?
Much less gloomy and more positive IMO.
?
?
Can I test the waters? I put on
some weight a while back when I couldn't go to the
gym for a couple years...perhaps 30 pounds or so. I
noticed one day as I was sitting down, leaning
slightly to one side, I felt a *plop* as a little
roll of fat was birthed into existence around my
floating ribs...as a tall skinny type and gym freak
for most of my life it was one of the most
disgusting, yet funny, experiences I've ever had.
Relating it to other people has been quite
funny...does that make me bad for making fun of fat
people? Can I no longer do it after losing the
weight...?
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Not
on my watch if physical and mental disabilities are
made fun of. My apologies.
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Not that I've seen any of the said
films?(saw Ali G on Richard and Judy once) but
I'm with you on that.
If you're brave or daft enough to
crack a joke in the wrong place at the wrong time
you'll suffer; but you have the right to do
it.
I
can't stand the idea of certain topics being
taboo, where humour is concerned. Fuck that.
Either it's all okay or none of it is okay.
Leigh
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