[kj] (OT) There is no hope, at this rate, Mr. Obama--there should be hope, still.

[countessghoulita at aol.com]

Alas, no news for me :(


 

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> ... Illegal dumping can be found even in the North. 



 


I read a couple of days ago that toxic Italo-Eurotrash also gets dumped 


off the coast of Somalia, poisoning and deforming everything.  


 


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Hippie.






Darren


Hungerford, UK

On 10 Jul 2009, at 18:43, countessghoulita at aol.com wrote:











Heh. I have got your point, Folk. 

LA is a car-friendly city. The metro is ridiculous, considering the size of the city. When--and if--certain projects start, aimed
 at expanding the metro service from areas like Santa Monica, there will be more chaos on the streets, and LA road network is already congested.

Re: leaf blowers. They are so noisy, too. Whenever a gardener comes by to clear the leaves, I feel like Tim Robbins on "Noise" (of course, same goes for car alarms). I do not understand why blowers are not replaced with other devices that vacuum them. Leaves could be then used in compost. 

Heh...garbage (and Eurokids). Berlusconi's "bella figura" to clean up cities like Naples from garbage, to then say that the problem was solved is kinda bogus. It was like hiding dust under a carpet. As long as mafia controls the whole garbage business, more and more Italians will have new sources of
 pollution in water and soil. Illegal dumping can be found even in the North. If you watch "Gomorra" you'll get nauseated. I was, because I think of how beautiful my country of origin is, and how it is strangled by crime, corruption and pollution in many areas--still, and forever will be, I fear. 

I wish more could be done here to favour an easier recycling. In Europe, recycling containers are bigger and are placed at street corners or blocks. They are emptied twice a week, if my memory serve s me well.

Water conservation should not be left to the individual, you are right. If I do my best not to consume water in excess, I wish others would do the same. I do, since I have common sense, and sleep well at night. 

I wish all these summits be20used to compare systems, and find a common ground for countries to resolve problems in the long run. yes, I am an idealist. I still wish I could believe in something.... I am not a hippie. Don't you
 worry ;)

Cheers,
CG











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How can America lead in climate issues, when they are 20 years behind many other Countries?
An example (or gripe?)..
 
Leaf blowers in much of Los Angeles County are illegal. Gas fueled blowers are much more polluting than the average car. They blow predominantly non-indigenous foliage etc. into the gutters and consequently storm drains, which run straight to the ocean. Is the law enforced? No.
 
In many areas, you can only park your car for 2 hours. If, after 2 hours, you do not move your car, consequently adding to pollution and traffic congestion, you will receive at least a $50 dollar parking ticket. Is the law enforced? Yes.
 
There is currently a regulation on
 watering your garden. You can only water twice a week, due to severe drought. Do most people adhere to these regulations? No.
 
Relative to your average Eurokid, American kids (and adults) are decidedly ignorant on climate issues. There is a distinctly fundamental problem here.
There is no hope, at this rate, Mr. Obama. 





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