[kj] Antithesis of Killing Joke -- good catch

Stephen Lawrence stephen.l at live.com
Mon Jul 6 18:23:07 EDT 2009



thanks saul

electronic communication has been good so far

but i know what you mean

'' in the flesh '' an' all that lol



Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 14:29:34 -0700
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] Antithesis of Killing Joke -- good catch






I've been there - twice. I hope all goes well.


... ... ... ... ... ...

[looking at the current state of things..]

'Save me...
save me from Tomorrow..
I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'







From: Stephen Lawrence <stephen.l at live.com>
To: "gathering at misera.net" <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2009 12:36:02 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] Antithesis of Killing Joke -- good catch



all good thanks
a bit hectic making preparations for my half sisters's arrival on thursday [ first ever meeting ]
could be emotional



From: paulwady at hotmail.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 20:08:48 +0100
Subject: Re: [kj] Antithesis of Killing Joke -- good catch



Fond of children. The little dears...


And your good self?









Keep Smiling...
http://www.myspace.com/themodelaircraftmuseum


http://www.myspace.com/paulwadyexperience

Autism also affects adults.
Most are isolated and ignored
Think. Act. Transform Lives.
www.think-differently.org.uk





From: stephen.l at live.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 17:09:03 +0000
Subject: Re: [kj] Antithesis of Killing Joke -- good catch



fear and ignorance plus a little selfishness probably
oh and a lack of patience
how are you today paul ?



From: paulwady at hotmail.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 12:20:40 +0100
Subject: Re: [kj] Antithesis of Killing Joke -- good catch



""Within weeks he was under arrest for desertion and possession of child pornography""

HAHAAH! Yep, that folks is what life is like with Autism.

WHY WON'T ANYONE UNDERSTAND US?????




Keep Smiling...

http://www.myspace.com/themodelaircraftmuseum

http://www.myspace.com/paulwadyexperience

Autism also affects adults.
Most are isolated and ignored
Think. Act. Transform Lives.
www.think-differently.org.uk





From: stephen.l at live.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 08:30:00 +0000
Subject: Re: [kj] Antithesis of Killing Joke -- good catch



the things they do to keep the war machine in motion



Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 18:54:21 -0700
From: saulomar1 at yahoo.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] Antithesis of Killing Joke -- good catch







>From tomorrow, here's a piece on marine autism, http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-marine-autism6-2009jul06,0,7706948.story?track=rss


*shakes head*





... ... ... ... ... ...

[looking at the current state of things..]

'Save me...
save me from Tomorrow..
I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'







From: Jim Harper <jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2009 6:47:51 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] Antithesis of Killing Joke -- good catch






I'm sure there are many people on the Gathering already aware of the case, since it is front page news here, after all.

Myself, I'm not convinced that Asperger's Syndrome makes for a watertight defence in this case. Despite all coming under the one umbrella, no two individuals with Asperger's or autism are alike; to produce a generalisation like "No-one with Asperger's could have done this!" is ignore the million different ways these conditions manifest themselves. It's not a black-and-white disease like the flu, wher you've either got it or you haven't. I've known severely autistic kids who barely noticed it when they hurt themselves severely, and others who didn't seem autistic at all until you knew them well.

"No-one with Asperger's could have done this" is the kind of statement only a lawyer looking to win a case could make. This doesn't mean he doesn't deserve leniency, and I'd be very surprised if he doesn't get it, but I'm also not about to succumb to the allure of generalisations that might have been whipped out by a canny defence lawyer.

Jim.

--- On Sun, 5/7/09, Stephen Lawrence <stephen.l at live.com> wrote:


From: Stephen Lawrence <stephen.l at live.com>
Subject: Re: [kj] Antithesis of Killing Joke -- good catch
To: "gathering at misera.net" <gathering at misera.net>
Date: Sunday, 5 July, 2009, 1:21 PM




nicely put paul
btw are you aware of the plight of GARY MCKINNON ?
have you signed the petition ?

would you like to make the gathering aware of the situation as a fellow autistic ?
i could do it but feel it more appropiate if you did the honours
all the best
it would be good to get a global response





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