[kj] Angelina of Killing Jolie -- good crass ?

[Stephen Lawrence]

there speaks the voice of reason
 


From: fluke1 at live.co.uk
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 12:37:50 +0000
Subject: Re: [kj] Angelina of Killing Jolie -- good crass ?



Is it because she is rich and famous that you feel that she shouldn't wear Crass T-shirts?
Should only people living in cardboard boxes be allowed to wear Crass T-shirts?
You are just displaying Working class ignorance and Working Class snobbery . 
You are adhering to Alex's views that as soon as people get a pot to piss in , then all their credibility is lost. 
 If the Dead Kennedys released a song, he would love it . But if a year later that same song ws Number one in the charts, he would hate it.
  Whats the difference ? its still the same song.
If Angelina Jolie had not become famous and she was a struggling bit part actress, would that then give her the right to wear a Crass T-shirt ?
  You know nothing about Angelina Jolie , you are just making ignorant assumptions about her .
She was into Crass when she was younger, why shouldn't she now wear the T-shirt. 
She dropped out of school at 14 , went to live with her boyfriend , dyed her hair purple and wore black and wanted to be a funeral director and she attended punk gigs regularly. Alex can decide whether she has the credential to wear the T-shirt.
  She can wear what the hell she likes, should she put her Crass T-shirts away and start wearing U2 ones?
  Stop being such ignorant snobs
 


From: paulwady at hotmail.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 23:47:12 +0100
Subject: Re: [kj] Antithesis of Killing Joke -- good catch



For me, this t shirt on some multi millionaire fit reality-impersonator raises the issues of that argument on here before, where one person talked about people being something they werent, and another got very insistent that they were no fraud at all.   


Is Jolie really at heart someone who'd jump around at a Crass gig smelling of sweat and passion in her 2nd hand ripped old clothes, fresh from a squat full of idealism, anarchy and wacky backy?  Or is she more like me, someone who 25 odd years ago liked to think they were like that, and went onto live in the odd squat in Hackney Wick and found it was all necessity of poverty and survival that you were part of any sub-culture with the associated lefty anarco whatever politics?  


I respected Crass but I never soiled their gigs with my presence.  So I'd never wear a t shirt with them on it, because I'd never be up to what I saw them as standing for.  





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