[kj] OT: Bill Hicks

[Christof hamille]

I like him more when he does voice over work (ala Home Movies and Dr Katz) and his writing and directing.  I know that he is part of the Dane Cook rip-off controversy.  And those similarities are close as far as timeline.  I enjoy his viewpoints and humor.  Maybe it is the delivery that doesn't make me a true fan.

 The Leary argument is....true...but it is so old.  There was a feud (I think amicable) between Redd Foxx and Rudy Ray Moore 20 something years ago.

Samething with Carlos Mencena (sp?) and 20 other comics.

Comics are bitter, twisted, demented people and it seems like there is always someone screaming "rip-off".

Chris


From: gregslawson at msn.com
To: gathering at misera.net; vassifer at earthlink.net
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:10:39 -0500
Subject: Re: [kj] OT:  Bill Hicks








Chris, what do you think of Louis CK?



From: wessidetempest at hotmail.com
To: vassifer at earthlink.net; gathering at misera.net
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:53:21 -0500
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks



The argument that Leary ripped of Hicks has been on going for a looong time.  There is a story that Leary didn't even start doing the smoking bitter gag until Hicks was dead.  And there was something dodgy about Leary and HIcks death (as far as comments or something).  Honestly I cannot be bothered.  I follow the comedian world pretty regularly and so much time has passed that it's almost a moot point.  Bill Hicks, who I think is excellent, is certainly not the first to be a venomous comedian that used smoking as part of the schtick.  He certainly took it up a notch.

When comedians die unexpectedly fans put them into some sort of stratosphere that is not always realistic.

Chris



Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:38:23 -0500
From: vassifer at earthlink.net
To: gathering at misera.net; gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks



The perils and ramifications of smoking aren't really "niche" material. You may not like Dennis Leary -- fair enough -- but to accuse him of ripping off Hicks in that capacity is pretty unfair.
Alex in NYC




-----Original Message----- 
From: Brendan Quinn 
Sent: Jan 30, 2009 12:46 PM 
To: "'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'" 
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks 









We were comparing them because they covered similar material, that I’m pretty sure Hicks came up with and Leary stole. Specifically the voicebox gag. I could be wrong, but that’s the accusation.
 




From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alex Smith
Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009 03:59
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks
 You seem to be equating them merely on the fact that they're both "angry" comedians. That's not much to go on. I mean, why not toss Don Rickles into the mix too, then?

Alex in NYC



-----Original Message----- 
From: Brendan Quinn 
Sent: Jan 30, 2009 10:31 AM 
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Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks 



Not a fair comparison…because? 
 




From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Alexander Smith
Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 23:15
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks
 

 

Dennis Leary is rarely as earnest and sanctimonious as Bill Hicks was capable of being. I love both, but it's not really a fair comparison. 

 

Alex in NYC

 

 
 


On Jan 30, 2009, at 1:34 AM, Brendan Quinn wrote:







Let Hicks=Soundgarden, and Let Leary=Stone Temple Pilots  

 

If Soundgarden=TotalGodheadOnEarth and STP=BigFatYawn, then Leary=?

 

Please show working.

 





From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of ade
Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 07:24
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 


LOL, don't forget Denis Leary ;)


 



>From wikipeedo: 'an industry joke began to circulate about Leary's transformation and subsequent success (roughly; "Question: Why is Denis Leary a star while Bill Hicks is unknown? Answer: Because there's no cure for cancer"'



-----Original Message-----
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On Behalf Of Brendan Quinn
Sent: 29 January 2009 04:57
To: 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

The only other comedians I’d put in that category (and none as good as Hicks) would be George Carlin, and lately, Joe Rogan, who’s a surprising find actually.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8

 

PS: I haven’t watched this in ages so apologies if it sucks, but from memory it’s pretty cool.

 





From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Bette Dillinger
Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2009 12:34
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 


Hey everyone!
    Strange, angering, yet I am still gonna try to catch it.  In the US David Letterman will be showing on Friday, the 30th, 11:30 EST the routine of Bill Hicks' that was never aired by Letterman in 1994 because it was considered too "controversial".  The routine that sullied his relationship with the media to a degree.  
 
His mother Mary will also be a guest (the irony that the legal executor of the estate is the ex attorney for Billy Ray Cyrus, but then you can't make this shit up.).........
Damn, it has been 14 years!  Are there any comedians that are flying under the radar that should be checked out?  I am still looking for one whose voice is so resonant with truth and humour.
 
Bette       



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