[kj] [OT]Orson Welles, Kubrick

Paul Wady paulwady at hotmail.com
Fri Feb 20 03:53:56 EST 2009



Aha, but still you get the film out every few years!
I was thinking the other day about the 5 film box set of his films that I gave as a Christmas present, that I watched. My opinion is the reverse. In one scene of Eyes Wide Shut, Tom Cruise talks to an old friend who dropped out of medical school. As they drink in a bar, you can hear the ice clinking around in their glasses. There was something amazing about this tiny detail that really put me on edge, embarrassing me as much as the old friend clearly is to see Cruise again. It really stated the scene. You have to reflect on how understated the Horror can be in The Shining, scenes of people still and staring, taking things in. Oooh.

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> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 15:30:57 +1300

> From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz

> To: jimharper666 at yahoo.co.uk; gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] [OT]Orson Welles, Kubrick

>

> Yeah have to agree, The Shining was totally ineffective in scaring me, and

> 2001, while it had some great scenes, excellently soundtracked, was way,

> way too long and slow. I don't think I could ever go back and watch it

> again the whole way through.

>

>> Just my opinion, of course, but with the exception of 1.5 of his films (Dr

>> Strangelove and a few moments here and there), there are few filmmakers

>> whose work I find quite so tedious, bland and utterly overrated as Stanley

>> Kubrick. If I live to be 103 I swear I shall never come any closer to

>> understanding why this man is hailed as a genius. Truly bewildering.

>>

>> I've tried. I really have. Every five years I hire/borrow a copy of 2001,

>> just to see if it improves on 3rd/4th/5th etc viewing. WIthout fail I find

>> myself bored to tears and painfully remembering why I only do this twice a

>> decade. Periodically I'll watch The Shining, having read some critic's

>> fawning, superlative-laden eulogy and been motivated to give it another

>> fair crack of the whip. Barely made through the first hour this time,

>> before turning it off in favour of some infinitely-more-effective horror

>> film (and there are *lots*). Still, I'll keep trying, if only for the

>> disgruntled movie fans who inevitably start sharpening the knives the

>> moment I refuse to genuflect to St. Anley Kubrick.

>>

>> Jim.

>>

>> --- On Fri, 20/2/09, Bette Dillinger <bettedillinger at live.com> wrote:

>>

>> From: Bette Dillinger <bettedillinger at live.com>

>> Subject: Re: [kj] [OT]Orson Welles, Kubrick

>> To: gathering at misera.net

>> Date: Friday, 20 February, 2009, 1:03 AM

>>

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>> But the man with the plan over his entire lifespan is Stanley Kubrick. I

>> heart Kubrick from "Killer's Kiss" to "Full Metal Jacket". "Eyes Wide

>> Shut".......I read the novella, it had no bearing on the final outcome and

>> I have always been cynical about that film.

>>

>>> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 12:02:55 +0100

>>> From: bo.krogsgaard at gmail.com

>>> To: gathering at misera.net

>>> Subject: Re: [kj] [OT] Magazine and movies

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>>> When it comes to old movies, i worship Fritz Lang for his two

>>> masterpieces M and Metropolis. Also Sergei Eisenstein and Friedrich

>>> Murnau, and even Leni Riefenstahl.

>>>

>>> Alfred Hitchcock, yes please, especially Vertigo is visually

>>> impressive. But i'd take an Orson Welles movie over a Hitchcock movie

>>> any day, especially The Trial, which to me is how a movie can be taken

>>> to perfection.

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