[kj] OT: Bill Hicks

[Brendan Quinn]

That Wiki article Pat linked to has a footnote to a Joe Rogan blog where he
calls out Leary as a joke thief, and reckons the local comedy pros he asked
about it at the time all said Leary's a thief: 

 

http://blog.joerogan.net/archives/92

 

He is a thief. If you reckon there's not enough similarity, you obviously
never plagiarised your homework and just put it into your own words. Same
topic, same angle, different words. How clever. 

 

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Bette Dillinger
Sent: Thursday, 5 February 2009 13:24
To: gathering at misera.net
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

 

It's the principle of the matter.  Yes, it is difficult to conceive of
morals, values...right...wrong... in our most enlightened, post modern media
saturated times.  
Bottom line:  A hack who appropriates the talents of a gifted dying
performer, takes his routine after his death (as well as taking copious
notes and making NCFC before the body was interred) and subsequently profits
off it is morally and emotionally bankrupt.   This is not an intellectual
exercise.  He needs a right good kick in the arse, and I am being kind.

 
As you were.
 
Bette 


> Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 21:53:27 -0800

> From: angrytomhanks at yahoo.com

> To: gathering at misera.net

> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

> 

> Don't ever remember saying I was bored. I was simply agreeing with Alex.

He hit the nail on the head by comparing the Leary vs Hicks arguement to the
Nirvana vs Killing Joke thing. 

> 

> Bill Hicks is fine, sometimes really funny. Completely overrated, of

course. That'll happen when you die. His best moments were when he broke
from his routine and berated his audience. His meltdowns were pretty
intense. Probably a couple of them floating around on youtube. 

> 

> Leary's standup is pretty lame but as a comedic actor, he is aces. Rescue

Me is a testament to this as well as Suicide Kings. The similarities between
the himself and Bill Hicks are slight at best. Post the youtube clip where
Leary quotes him verbatim and things might get interesting. 

> 

> 

> 

> http://www.nightruiner.com

> http://www.myspace.com/thesunthroughatelescope

> http://www.myspace.com/lauderdale

> 

> 

> 

> ----- Original Message ----

> From: Brendan <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>

> To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

<gathering at misera.net>

> Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2009 5:21:20 PM

> Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

> 

> I'm not trying to be rude Leigh, my point is, I'm a big fan of Bill Hicks,

> having a yarn with others on the list about him being ripped off by

> Leary...so why piss on my chips? I could verbally roll my eyes about stuff

> others are talking about, call it old news etc...but why bother? Do you

> actually have a point, other than to share that it bores you? It bores me

> even more to know that.

> 

> > Tsk, so rude. Got any more "durrr, here is evidence that this asshole

> > ripped off this other asshole" youtube vids to show? Those never suck.

> >

> > http://www.nightruiner.com

> > http://www.myspace.com/thesunthroughatelescope

> > http://www.myspace.com/lauderdale

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>

> > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> > <gathering at misera.net>

> > Sent: Monday, February 2, 2009 1:12:39 PM

> > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

> >

> >

> > Exactly.what? If you don't want to take

> > part in a thread, there's plenty on tv on I'm sure.

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> >

> > From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

On

> > Behalf Of Leigh Newton

> > Sent: Tuesday, 3 February 2009

> > 04:11

> > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

> >

> > HA! Ex.Act.Ly.

> >

> > http://www.nightruiner.com

> > http://www.myspace.com/thesunthroughatelescope

> > http://www.myspace.com/lauderdale

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> >

> > From:Alex

> > Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net>

> > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> > <gathering at misera.net>; A list about all things Killing Joke

> > (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>

> > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009

> > 3:04:19 PM

> > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

> > With all

> > due respect, Brendan, this is like dredging up the ol'

> > "Eighties"/"Come As You Are"/"Life Goes

> > On"/"Baby, Come Back" debate.

> > Alex in

> > NYC

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > -----Original

> > Message-----

> > From: Brendan Quinn

> > Sent: Jan 30, 2009 2:53 PM

> > To: "' A list about all things Killing Joke

> > (the band!)'"

> > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

> > Well, unfair in your opinion, I beg to differ based on how I see

> > it:

> >

> >

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Hicks#Allegations_of_plagiarism_towards_De
nis_Leary

> >

> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE4sK_yYtGQ

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> >

> > From:gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

On

> > Behalf Of Alex Smith

> > Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009

> > 05:38

> > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); ' A list about all

> > things Killing Joke (the band!)'

> > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

> >

> > The perils and ramifications of smoking aren't really

> > "niche" material. You may not like Dennis Leary -- fair enough -- but

> > to accuse him of ripping off Hicks in that capacity is pretty unfair.

> > Alex in NYC

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: Brendan Quinn

> > Sent: Jan 30, 2009 12:46 PM

> > To: "' A list about all things Killing Joke

> > (the band!)'"

> > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

> >

> >

> > We were comparing them because they covered similar material, that

> > I'm pretty sure Hicks came up with and Leary stole. Specifically the

> > voicebox gag. I could be wrong, but that's the accusation.

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> >

> > From:gathering-bounces at misera.net

> > [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On

> > Behalf Of Alex Smith

> > Sent: Saturday, 31 January 2009

> > 03:59

> > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!); ' A list about all

> > things Killing Joke (the band!)'

> > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

> >

> > You seem to be equating them merely on the fact that they're

> > both "angry" comedians. That's not much to go on. I mean, why not

> > toss Don Rickles into the mix too, then?

> > Alex in NYC

> >

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: Brendan Quinn

> > Sent: Jan 30, 2009 10:31 AM

> > To: "' A list about all things Killing Joke

> > (the band!)'"

> > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

> >

> >

> >

> > Not a fair comparison.because?

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> >

> > From:gathering-bounces at misera.net

> > [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On

> > Behalf Of Alexander Smith

> > Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009

> > 23:15

> > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

> >

> >

> > Dennis Leary is rarely as earnest and sanctimonious as Bill Hicks

> > was capable of being. I love both, but it's not really a fair

comparison.

> >

> > Alex in NYC

> >

> >

> >

> > On Jan 30, 2009, at 1:34 AM, Brendan Quinn wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Let Hicks=Soundgarden, and Let Leary=Stone Temple Pilots

> >

> > If Soundgarden=TotalGodheadOnEarth and STP=BigFatYawn, then Leary=?

> >

> > Please show working.

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> >

> > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

> > On

> > Behalf Of ade

> > Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 07:24

> > To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)

> > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

> >

> > LOL, don't forget Denis Leary ;)

> >

> > From wikipeedo: 'an industry joke began to circulate about Leary's

> > transformation and subsequent success (roughly; "Question: Why is Denis

> > Leary a star while Bill Hicks is unknown? Answer: Because there's no

cure

> > for

> > cancer"'

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net

[mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]On

> > Behalf Of Brendan

> > Quinn

> > Sent: 29 January 2009 04:57

> > To: ' A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'

> > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

> > The only other comedians I'd put in that category (and none

> > as good as Hicks) would be George Carlin, and lately, Joe Rogan, who's a

> > surprising find actually.

> >

> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8

> >

> > PS: I haven't watched this in ages so apologies if it sucks,

> > but from memory it's pretty cool.

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> >

> > From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net]

> > On

> > Behalf Of Bette

> > Dillinger

> > Sent: Thursday, 29 January 2009 12:34

> > To: gathering at misera.net

> > Subject: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks

> >

> >

> > Hey everyone!

> > Strange, angering, yet I am still gonna try to catch

> > it. In the US David Letterman will be showing on Friday, the 30th, 11:30

> > EST the routine of Bill Hicks' that was never aired by Letterman in

> > 1994 because it was considered too "controversial". The

> > routine that sullied his relationship with the media to a degree.

> >

> > His mother Mary will also be a guest (the irony that the legal executor

of

> > the

> > estate is the ex attorney for Billy Ray Cyrus, but then you can't make

> > this shit up.).........

> > Damn, it has been 14 years! Are there any comedians that are

> > flying under the radar that should be checked out? I am still

> > looking for one whose voice is so resonant with truth and humour.

> >

> > Bette

> >

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