[kj] OT: Bill Hicks

[Karen Weil]

Amen, Alex!

k.w.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alexander Smith" <vassifer at earthlink.net>
To: "A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)" 
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Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Bill Hicks



>I wasn't referring to YOU when I alluded to Year Zero. "Year Zero" is 

>shorthand for Punk Rock's myopic scorched earth policy of renouncing  all 

>that came before it.

>

> Everyone on this list needs to chill the hell out a little bit.

>

> Alex in NYC

>

>

>

> On Jan 31, 2009, at 5:24 PM, iPat wrote:

>

>> not what i said,

>> i never referred to year zero, although i don't really know what you

>> mean exactly by that.

>>

>> My point is that while we can sometimes take ourselves out to

>> different genres where one or two finds may be the exception, you will

>> generally be disposed to what you initially were turned on by. I may

>> have a few 'metal' tracks in my collection but in general im more

>> likely to default to where my journey really started, which is

>> naturally influenced by the peer group at the time.

>>

>> For me, where i was in the UK at that time, it was the early 70's

>> skinhead music which set me off due to my peers influence. I've never

>> worn a rocker style leather jacket synonymous with rock music. The

>> status quo rocker scene was the antithesis of my 'culture' and the

>> music was abhorrent. That's not to say i don't have the odd early

>> AC/DC or Pink Floyd track and you know my feelings on Rush. Whether

>> any so called celeb is into a band has no effect on me but can

>> titillate others to no end. That's people for you.

>>

>> I had a branch of industrial music that went off with mainly psychick

>> tv but a lot of krautrock' industrial stuff didn't interest me as

>> Orbital or Spiral tribe held little interest for Metallica fans. In

>> fact my PTV collection is quite large with all the literature that i

>> had and i think i will give it a suitable collector. Flat mates at the

>> time fcking hated it, unable to understand my hysterics when 'Jesus

>> Christ Walks on Water' was blasted out the window on number 10 volume

>> control to the neighborhood.

>>

>> The crux of the matter though, is that the more i experience a wider

>> scope of music, i find myself defaulting to the original inspirations.

>> Whether you find the same is irrelevant in that you are you and of

>> course your experiences will be unique to your disposition. I'll wager

>> there is a disposition though. A recent remark on someone on this list

>> in private correspondence has also shown him to deferring to his

>> Groundhogs, Hawkwind, Todd Rundgren, Peter Green Fleetwood Mac. All of

>> which i find completely abhorrent unless i want to pretend to be a

>> music snob and pretend there's some intellectual relevance to it.

>> there's not, i simply dont get off on it.

>>

>> It's like gigs, it simply amazes me that i can go to gigs and there's

>> never a fight anymore......where are the balls ; )

>>

>> So whilst you may not agree with it, it is because i am not you as you

>> are not me. I'm right though and i blame it on mother..........   : 0

>>

>> On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 8:43 PM, Alexander Smith <vassifer at earthlink.net

>> > wrote:

>>>

>>> I never fully subscribed to all that 'Year Zero' stuff. I love lots  of

>>> metal. I adore Punk Rock. I like an unwieldy dollop of so-called 

>>> 'classic

>>> rock.' I like bits of reggae. I like a lot of dance music. There's  more 

>>> than

>>> enough crap that I *don't* like, but at the end of the day, music  is 

>>> music.

>>> I'm too old to define myself by any single genre anymore.

>>>

>>> Henry Rollins of Black Flag, by the way (since they were invoked 

>>> earlier) is

>>> a huge fan of Ted Nugent, Van Halen and Aerosmith.

>>>

>>> Alex in NYC

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