[kj] rebellion?

[Darren A. Peace]

Oh it's so complicated.

 

There I was, idly knotting my brown handkerchief, and popping it in my back
left pocket before going in to Heaven...

 

Darren

Hungerford, UK

 

From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Karen Weil
Sent: 11 August 2009 6:23 PM
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] rebellion?

 

Remember when colored shoe laces were just worn for fashion? 

 

 

k.w.

SoCal

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From: Matthew Burke <mailto:marsboy1 at msn.com>  

To: gathering <mailto:gathering at misera.net>  

Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 10:12 AM

Subject: Re: [kj] rebellion?

 

I recall that, in the US, red laces mean you've participated in a physical
attack against a minority.  They're "earned", not just something you pick up
in a shoe shop for a splash of color.



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> I read a book called F?hrer Ex by Ingo Hasselbach, who was a leading Neo

> Nazi figure in the 80s or 90s I think, ended up changing his mind about

> it, wrote a book and went around talking to kids in school about racism /

> fascism. (I had a mate who was in the anti-fas who reckons he only changed

> his spots when he got busted, but who knows. Sounds like he had a shit

> time growing up in East Germany under the Stasi and being a Nazi was the

> perfect way to rebel against them as fascism is the idealogical opposite

> to comminism, in theory). Anyway apparently over there red bootlaces meant

> anarchist, white was fascist, and black was neutral. If I remember

> correctly.

> 

> > That can actually be true, sometimes. Next time you see a video on

> > YouTube of Neo-Nazis, check out the laces on their boots. A lot of the

> > times they're white laces. Unfortunately, I have met a few of these

> > douchebags and they did have white laces indeed. One had a RAHOWA ball

> > cap.

> >

> > Like anything, just seeing someone with white laces is nothing to accost

> > them about,t hough. They may not know what the hell they are doing, like

> > all the kids who have "88" after their usernames online because they

> > thought it was some punk thing.

> >

> >

> >

> > Alex Smith wrote:

> >> I seem to remember reading a piece in SPIN magazine about twenty-five

> >> years ago that said you could tell what type of skinhead someone was

> >> (i.e. racist or not) by the color of the laces on their Doc Martens.

> >>

> >> Yeah, whatever.

> >>

> >> Alex in NYC

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

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