[kj] OT: Tender, moving YouTube video

[sade1]

There's this contradiction - literally from one sentence to the next - in Obama's short 
speech on the Torture Memos from Thursday, 

"..nothing will be gained...spending.. time and 
 energy laying blame for the past..." [i.e. so no holding Bush&Co. accountable and thus no 
                                                                                upholding/defending the Constitution]
and,
"Our national greatness is 
 America's...core values....." [which are still, allegedly, upholding/defending the Constitution, and thus 
                                                                                                       to hold Bush&Co. accountable]

speech transcript, http://www.truthout.org/041709J#1


... ... ... ... ... ... 

[looking at the current state of things..]
 
'Save me...
  save me from Tomorrow..
    I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'   





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From: Darren A. Peace <dpeace at bigfoot.com>
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) <gathering at misera.net>
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 8:23:59 AM
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Tender, moving YouTube video

What's the US take on this?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8003023.stm

Is it to be interpreted as a PR distancing from the Bush administration, or
a capitulation to the ACLU, or is there another agenda I am unaware of?

They make sobering reading, in whatever case.

http://www.aclu.org/safefree/general/olc_memos.html


Darren
Hungerford, UK

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Behalf Of B. Oliver Sheppard
Sent: 17 April 2009 16:02
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Tender, moving YouTube video

Obama's continuation of the wiretaps, and the wars, etc., is craven and 
odious. No the changed I voted for, but still glad I voted for him and 
not McCain, and that Bush is out on his ear.

Having said that, the "tea parties" were folks whose grievances were not 
along socially liberal lines of "Obama must end the war and domestic 
surveillance!" They were ugle exhibitions of bigoted, backwards 
sentiments, stoked by FOX Nes and conservative commentators and 
funded/promoted by right wing organizations like Newt Gingrich's 
American Solutions and Dick Armey (yes, his real name) FreedomWorks.

I have my own grievances with Obama , but the tea parties sure as hell 
ain't on my side of the spectrum of complaints I have with him.

-Oliver


Brendan Quinn wrote:

>

> I'm tending to agree with you, Obama is a not impressing me much so 

> far. And I wish they'd keep his wife off the magazine front pages, 

> it's irrelevant.

>

> I think it's more evidence that this whole Republican vs Democrat 

> thing is a farce.

>


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