[kj] OT: Tender, moving YouTube video

[The Exorcist]

Dear Bette, did I ever tell you that I get a 
thrill up my leg when you call me me. :)
(Boy does that sound weird!)

Yes I did read your line about the tax cuts expiration. :)

We shall sat and twiddle our thumbs and watch how things work out.
Till then, we are free to criticize, support or kvetch. :)

At 09:06 PM 4/17/2009, Bette Dillinger wrote:


>  Dear Me (har):

>Did you read my line that addressed Obama?

>

>"Believe me, I would have thrown 'em out the 

>first day (tax cuts), and I do not think Obama 

>is the greatest hope for humanity."

>

>Those tax breaks that will expire are going to 

>assist the coffers.  Minimally?  Dunno.

>

>Yes, you can write a laundry list of all the 

>ways Obama is behaving like an American President, not Eugene Debs.

>

>As Jazzy says, when the stable is owned by the 

>same interests, yet the two horses are supposed 

>to be competition, it is a farce (paraphrase, of course).

>

>I laughed with recognition at the Guardian's 

>view of Obama during his recent trip across the 

>pond, which was something to the effect of 

>"everyone know Obama has some difficulty exuding 

>compassion, so his wife Michelle is an excellent 

>ambassador".  That statement alone would never 

>be printed in the US, or be given alot of attention.

>

>Obama is "same as it ever was", a jingoist with 

>more melanin.  To be the US President means you 

>have to play by certain rules.  I just prefer to 

>watch him play than watch the last president get 

>so drunk he choked on a pretzel.

>

>

>----------

>Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 10:31:28 -0400

>From: killingjoke at theimmortalfool.com

>To: gathering at misera.net

>Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Tender, moving YouTube video

>

>Let's see...

>

>Rendition:

><http://www.latimes.com/news/la-na-rendition1-2009feb01,0,7548176,full.story>http://www.latimes.com/news/la-na-rendition1-2009feb01,0,7548176,full.story

>---snip---

>Under executive orders issued by Obama recently, 

>the CIA still has authority to carry out what 

>are known as renditions, secret abductions and 

>transfers of prisoners to countries that cooperate with the United States.

>---snip---

>

>Wire Tapping: (Also take into account the outrage when Bush started this)

><http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/04/obama-doj-worse-than-bush>http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/04/obama-doj-worse-than-bush

>---snip---

>It's an especially disappointing argument to 

>hear from the Obama Administration. As a 

>candidate, Senator Obama lamented that the Bush 

>Administration "invoked a legal tool known as 

>the 'state secrets' privilege more than any 

>other previous administration to get cases 

>thrown out of civil court." He was right then, 

>and we're dismayed that he and his team seem to have forgotten.

>

>Sad as that is, it's the Department Of Justice's 

>(read my comment below about the Justice Dept. 

>and who it's being filled with) second argument 

>that is the most pernicious. The DOJ claims that 

>the U.S. Government is completely immune from 

>litigation for illegal spying — that the 

>Government can never be sued for surveillance 

>that violates federal privacy statutes.

>---snip---

>

>Guantanamo? Nahhh. We got Bagram!:

><http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/13/opinion/13mon1.html?ref=opinion>http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/13/opinion/13mon1.html?ref=opinion

>---snip---

>The Obama administration is basking in praise 

>for its welcome commitment to shut down the 

>American detention center at Guantánamo Bay. But 

>it is acting far less nobly when it comes to 

>prisoners held at a larger, more secretive 

>military detention facility at Bagram Air Base in Afghanistan.

>---snip---

><http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/04/16/liberals-angered-obamas-opposition-judicial-review-bagram-detainees/>http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/04/16/liberals-angered-obamas-opposition-judicial-review-bagram-detainees/

>---snip---

>In an editorial this week, The New York Times 

>claimed Bagram is "the next Guantanamo" and 

>accused the Obama administration of recycling 

>"extravagant claims of executive power."

>

>That's because the Obama White House has sided 

>with the Bush administration in its belief that 

>the Bagram detainees, who are in a war zone, 

>have no right to a court review despite a ruling 

>last year by the Supreme Court granting Guantanamo detainees those rights.

>

>The Justice Department argues that Bagram is 

>different from Guantanamo because it is in an 

>overseas war zone and the prisoners there are 

>being held as part of an ongoing military 

>action. The government argues that releasing 

>enemy combatants into the Afghan war zone, or 

>even diverting U.S. personnel there to consider 

>their legal cases, could threaten security.

>--snip---

>

>Justice Dept:

>http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2009/04/obama-taps-fift.html

>http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2009/04/obama-stop-fill.html

>http://www.ip-watch.org/weblog/2009/04/07/president-obama-backs-riaa-in-online-file-sharing-case/ 

>

>

>Now, if you look at the arguments that RIAA 

>lawyers put forth in court, trust me, there is NO privacy.

>Not to mention many other arguments that I won't 

>list now as this one is enough.

>

>Taxes:

>Bette, Considering the amount of unsustainable 

>spending that the Obama administration is planning, it

>is just about impossible that it can be done 

>with raising taxes all over the place. This 95% tax cut is gonna

>be VERY short lived.

>

>Tea Party Riot:

>Oliver, there were no riots, it was actually 

>quite peaceful. No burning objects thrown at people, no breaking windows

>no flipping cars. I'd call that a protest, not a 

>riot. It seems that they behaved far better than most of the "other" protests

>I've seen over the past decade (or more).

>

>Cheers,

>Me

>

>At 05:40 AM 4/17/2009, Stephen Lawrence wrote:

>hmmm bette but what about human rights issues 

>...guantanamo bay NOT closed and MORE troops to 

>afghanistan therefore furthering the bush legacy 

>....not exactly a man of peace

>

>

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>From: bettedillinger at live.com

>To: gathering at misera.net

>Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 20:43:22 -0400

>Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Tender, moving YouTube video

>

>I just wanted to point out that President Obama 

>said he would not renew the tax cuts that the 

>Bush Administration gave to the top 1%.  He is 

>simply going to let them expire (2010, I 

>believe).  He has been consistent with this 

>statement throughout his campaign and 

>presidency.  Believe me, I would have thrown 'em 

>out the first day, and I do not think Obama is 

>the greatest hope for humanity.  However, 

>letting them expire shows he is  addressing the 

>issue in a way that will cause the least amount 

>of chaos.  He must be a good Chess player.

>

>Bette

>

> > Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 11:31:33 -0500

> > From: bigblackhair at sbcglobal.net

> > To: gathering at misera.net

> > Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Tender, moving YouTube video

> >

> > Yes, it is an organized thing from Freedom Wors, American Solutions, and

> > FOX News. The first two are corporate lobbying groups.

> >

> > For example, this is the American Solutions commercial for the tax day

> > "tea parties":

> >

> > 

> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vKr95e5aIE>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vKr95e5aIE

> >

> > Since the Obama administration has cut taxes for 95% of Americans,

> > including the working and middle class, but has promised (yet has not

> > yet delivered) to raise taxes on income over $250,000 - to raise these

> > taxes to LESS THAN THEY WERE UNDER REAGAN, it means we are living in a

> > socialist, totalitarian society. So we gotta riot.

> >

> > -Oliver

> >

> >

> > Brendan Quinn wrote:

> > > Was just reading on alternet.org that that 

> who tea party thing was a farce

> > > too...FFS, it's the internet age, when are people gonna realise you can't

> > > get away with shit like that anymore.

> > >

> > >

> >

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