[kj] OT: God Stuff again!
Karen Weil
karen.weil at sddt.com
Tue Apr 14 13:27:17 EDT 2009
Who is Jodie Marsh?
k.w.
----- Original Message -----
From: Darren A. Peace
To: 'Stephen Lawrence' ; 'A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)'
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: God Stuff again!
Who? Jodie Marsh?
Darren
Hungerford, UK
From: Stephen Lawrence [mailto:stephen.l at live.com]
Sent: 14 April 2009 03:26
To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk
Subject: RE: [kj] OT: God Stuff again!
yes darren as we sow so shall we reap and you show wisdom by shunning the whore of babylon
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From: dpeace at bigfoot.com
To: stephen.l at live.com; gathering at misera.net
Subject: RE: [kj] OT: God Stuff again!
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 03:15:51 +0100
Well, Stephen, I don't regard all who died at the autos-da-fe as being true Christian servants, and certainly many, many Catholics have been martyred. I also have a problem with any belief system that is prepared to disparage, hound, victimise, molest, torture or kill anyone with dissenting views. If I were at all prone to spiritual beliefs, I think I would subscribe to the Theosophical model, but my outlook is primarily existentialist. I regard myself as responsible and accountable for my own actions.
Darren
Hungerford, UK
From: Stephen Lawrence [mailto:stephen.l at live.com]
Sent: 14 April 2009 02:51
To: dpeace at suspiria.demon.co.uk
Subject: RE: [kj] OT: Science question
wholeheartedly agree darren christendom has got a lot to answer for only a few true christian servants have stood up for righteousness and paid the ultimate price of martyrdom
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From: dpeace at bigfoot.com
To: gathering at misera.net
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 01:42:23 +0100
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Science question
I expect I'm going to offend someone by saying this, but that's tough.
I consider the Catholic Church to be one of the biggest blights humanity has ever had to endure. The Pope's view on condoms is likely to kill more people than the Crusades I to V, and how anyone in a position of power can spread such poisonous, evil, self-aggrandising bollocks and not be globally pilloried is beyond my comprehension.
Don't get me started on the concepts of confession and absolution.
Darren
Hungerford, UK
From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On Behalf Of Jim Harper
Sent: 14 April 2009 01:12
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Science question
Condoms don't promote promiscuity. Promiscuity has been practiced by a sizeable prooportion of the human for as long as we've been in existence. Unless you can make a solid case that human beings were less promiscuous before the onset of readily available condoms (and the booming populations of third world countries with no contraception would seem to indicate the opposite), then your argument (and the Pope's) is as filmsy as most people believe it is.
Of course, the argument is entirely erroneous and highly dangerous. But then it's not intended to be a carefully considered, logical assertion; it's simply a cynical and merciless attempt to exploit the fears of uneducated Africans and paint the Catholic Church as the only possible saviour from disease. There's no way in hell the Pope would dare make such assertions in a first world country, but he probably figures he can feed the poorly-educated black people any old crap and get away with it.
Jim.
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 7:34 AM, Stephen Lawrence <stephen.l at live.com> wrote:
i have no admiration for Any figurehead being it either political or religious but condoms promote promiscuity and that is how AIDS spread...nothing wrong with married partners making love and also attempting to procreate but recreational sex advances S T I 's
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