[kj] OT: Science question

[Karen Weil]

Thank you, sade, for your intellgent, thoughtful response to Stephen. I'm still trying to digest his message, quite frankly.

k.w.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: sade1 
  To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!) 
  Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 1:13 PM
  Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Science question


  I'm not so sure......

  > condoms promote promiscuity...

     That is putting the cart way before the horse. I don't think you can come up with one example where promiscuity
      is promoted, or one where denying of condoms made people become good boys and girls again. 

  > promote...

     Condoms literally cannot promote anything. Impossible. All they can do is to facilitate more sex (frequency of, 
     not how indiscriminately one may choose to) by the user (giver and receiver).

  > promiscuity...

     Rather, what condoms 'promote' [actually, facilitate only] is increased, even profuse, sex, and not promiscuity
     per se'.  Those are two different things, promiscuity being a moral issue as opposed to faciliting being a functional
     issue.

  > promiscuity... is how AIDS spread...

     AIDS is spread much much more by irresponsible sex.  There are growing numbers now of people (mainly
     women, I think) who are faithful to their male partners and still become infected through no fault of their own.

  > recreational sex advances S T I 's 

     More like, promiscuous irresponsible sex advances STI's.  A couple having recreational sex doesn't in itself advance STIs (as long as their tools and implements are properly cared for 8) ).

     And does the last sentence mean to imply that a married couple having sex for fun and not necessarily for procreation is somehow wrong? (I  am just asking, not provoking with that question).

   
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  [looking at the current state of things..]

  'Save me...
    save me from Tomorrow..
      I don't want to sail in this Ship Of Fools...'   






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  From: Stephen Lawrence <stephen.l at live.com>
  To: "gathering at misera.net" <gathering at misera.net>
  Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 12:34:25 PM
  Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Science question

  i have no admiration for Any figurehead being it either political or religious but condoms promote promiscuity and that is how AIDS spread...nothing wrong with married partners making love and also attempting to procreate but recreational sex advances S T I 's 
   

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  From: folk.devil at hotmail.com
  To: gathering at misera.net
  Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 09:09:41 -0700
  Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Science question

  It is called sarcasm, Stephen. Do you normally agree with the Pope then? Is AIDs a myth?
   

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  From: stephen.l at live.com
  To: gathering at misera.net
  Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 16:06:03 +0000
  Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Science question

  do tell folk what's this LEECHING book from the 1600's then ?....are you an authoritory on it then?

   

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  From: folk.devil at hotmail.com
  To: gathering at misera.net
  Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 09:01:05 -0700
  Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Science question

  Do you think 'God' actually told him? Or did he get all his facts from a Leeching book from the 1600s?
  He looks like the Grinch in that photo.
   NO CONDOMS!

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  From: bq at soundgardener.co.nz
  To: gathering at misera.net
  Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 01:29:58 +1000
  Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Science question




    

  PS: Pope Benedict is anti Harry Potter, anti rock and pop music (Satan worship) and has banned guitars from playing in any church. Which is a bit fresh from an 80-something year old virgin ex Hitler Youth, who actually looks more like Satan than most death metal band members…



  http://therawfeed.com/pix/pope_benedict-he_sees_you_when_youre_sleeping.jpg

  Nazi 




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