[kj] OT: Science question

[Brendan Quinn]

Religiosity amongst scientists is low, it's also lower the higher you go in
expertise, and one of the lowest groups are expert biologists (1.5%).perhaps
because they are knowledgeable about EVOLUTION.

 

Religion (the main anti-evolution lobby group) will always be opposed to
facts and reason.

 

PS: Pope Benedict is anti Harry Potter, anti rock and pop music (Satan
worship) and has banned guitars from playing in any church. Which is a bit
fresh from an 80-something year old virgin ex Hitler Youth, who actually
looks more like Satan than most death metal band members.

 

http://therawfeed.com/pix/pope_benedict-he_sees_you_when_youre_sleeping.jpg

Nazi 

 

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of bongo
Sent: Monday, 13 April 2009 11:35
To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Science question

 

i found this interesting...   =) 

(thought i'd drop it in this thread...)

 

 

In everyday use, theory means a guess or a hunch, something that maybe needs
proof. In science, a theory is not a guess, not a hunch. It's a
well-substantiated, well-supported, well-documented explanation for our
observations. It ties together all the facts about something, providing an
explanation that fits all the observations and can be used to make
predictions. In science, theory is the ultimate goal, the explanation. It's
as close to proven as anything in science can be. 

Some people think that in science, you have a theory, and once it's proven,
it becomes a law. That's not how it works. In science, we collect facts, or
observations, we use laws to describe them, and a theory to explain them.
You don't promote a theory to a law by proving it. A theory never becomes a
law. 

This bears repeating. A theory never becomes a law. In fact, if there was a
hierarchy of science, theories would be higher than laws. There is nothing
higher, or better, than a theory. Laws describe things, theories explain
them. An example will help you to understand this. There's a law of gravity,
which is the description of gravity. It basically says that if you let go of
something it'll fall. It doesn't say why. Then there's the theory of
gravity, which is an attempt to explain why. Actually, Newton's Theory of
Gravity did a pretty good job, but Einstein's Theory of Relativity does a
better job of explaining it. These explanations are called theories, and
will always be theories. They can't be changed into laws, because laws are
different things. Laws describe, and theories explain. 

Just because it's called a theory of gravity, doesn't mean that it's just a
guess. It's been tested. All our observations are supported by it, as well
as its predictions that we've tested. Also, gravity is real! You can observe
it for yourself. Just because it's real doesn't mean that the explanation is
a law. The explanation, in scientific terms, is called a theory. 

Evolution is the same. There's the fact of evolution. Evolution (genetic
change over generations) happens, just like gravity does. Don't take my word
for it. Ask your science teacher, or google it. But that's not the issue we
are addressing here. The Theory of Evolution by Natural Selection is our
best explanation for the fact of evolution. It has been tested and
scrutinized for over 150 years, and is supported by all the relevant
observations. 

Next time someone tries to tell you that evolution is just a theory, as a
way of dismissing it, as if it's just something someone guessed at, remember
that they're using the non-scientific meaning of the word. If that person is
a teacher, or minister, or some other figure of authority, they should know
better. In fact, they probably do, and are trying to mislead you. 

Evolution is not just a theory, it's triumphantly a theory!

 

http://www.notjustatheory.com/index.html

 

 

 

 

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On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 2:26 AM, Brendan Quinn <bq at soundgardener.co.nz>
wrote:

Yes I'm constantly amazed that my emails to and from the list get through
because they are based on the true / false / maybe laws of science.which are
just as valid as the 'laws' of religion, such as immaculate conception and
original sin etc.

 

/sarcasm 

 

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From: gathering-bounces at misera.net [mailto:gathering-bounces at misera.net] On
Behalf Of Lennonka
Sent: Wednesday, 8 April 2009 22:06 


To: A list about all things Killing Joke (the band!)
Subject: Re: [kj] OT: Science question

 

That's beautifully said : ) 



In my opinion, scientific theories about the Universe have the same validity
like the Creation -- both can be true or false and nothing can be proved.

Lenn

On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:39 PM, bongo <humanhybrid666 at gmail.com> wrote:

 

 

to me, religion and science are the same thing... god is everything, and
science is the study of things..

 

=)

 

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